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Old 05-09-2021, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yawn. Another one that just can't help himself. You're the one that always seems to have to resort to name calling and insults. And you validate both comments you quoted without either of us having to say anything else.
During a pandemic ignorance kills so don't expect to be treated politely if you wish to spread it.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Yawn. Another one that just can't help himself. You're the one that always seems to have to resort to name calling and insults. And you validate both comments you quoted without either of us having to say anything else.
Yep. I'm mad as a hornet at those who knowingly & deliberately push their anti-vaccine propaganda, conspiracies and mendacious messaging: an intentional narrative that will cause more people to die and prolong the pandemic. You got me there.
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Old 05-09-2021, 03:04 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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No it isn't. HPV, tetanus and pneumococcal vaccines all give better protection than natural immunity. As for covid:


https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/04/...ral-infection/


https://theconversation.com/why-you-...navirus-155712
Real world numbers show otherwise.
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:53 AM
 
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Yep. I'm mad as a hornet at those who knowingly & deliberately push their anti-vaccine propaganda, conspiracies and mendacious messaging: an intentional narrative that will cause more people to die and prolong the pandemic. You got me there.
Unless people are being dishonest, you have no right to be mad. People should be able to speak their mind, and if they're weary of the vaccines, it should be discussed. You're not going to get more people to vaccinate by shutting down the conversation.
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Real world numbers show otherwise.
Source.
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Unless people are being dishonest ...
That is the point. Someone is told that what he is posting is misinformation, with supporting evidence, and he posts it repeatedly anyway.
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:38 AM
 
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Unless people are being dishonest, you have no right to be mad. People should be able to speak their mind, and if they're weary of the vaccines, it should be discussed. You're not going to get more people to vaccinate by shutting down the conversation.
Correct, but you're wasting your breath on a variety of these antagonistic, dogmatic posters.
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Old 05-10-2021, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Now that is some tinfoil right there.

- Fact, these vaccines are experimental and no one knows the long term effects.
- Fact, the death rate from Covid is less than 1%.. mostly above 60 and over weight.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not work to stop the spread of corona.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not keep you safe from hospitalization or death.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not allow you to return to normal.. you still need a mask.
- Fact, even with the experimental vaccine the CDC says we will not reach heard immunity.
- Fact, there are many people who cannot get the experimental vaccine due to health issues.
- Fact, there are many people the experimental vaccine will not protect... immunosuppressed.
- Fact, Fauci admits he lies about things to manipulate the people... the people have seen many lies from the medical community... it is the medical community that lies to achieve a purpose.
You're so all out wrong on most points that it's pitiful. The current covid vaccines are no longer experimental. They were successfully tried out on animals and so advanced to human test subjects over a year ago until approved by the FDA for emergency use. Do you know of any of those first human test subjects having dropped dead? No? No wonder. Most serious side effects from new vaccines are found out within several months.

Tell me something, Arya Stark, do you not realize that back in November that Alex Jones during a talk he gave in front of the Georgia Guidestones Monument declared that the coming mRNA vaccines would turn you into a GMO creature? He has been wrong on so many other things, such as declaring the Sandy Hook mass shooting a staged hoax. Just last Thursday, the loud, highly emotional tirade Jones let loose against the covid vaccines was just beyond irrational and totally untrue. It takes a profoundly gullible fool to take him seriously!
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:15 AM
 
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You're so all out wrong on most points that it's pitiful. The current covid vaccines are no longer experimental. They were successfully tried out on animals and so advanced to human test subjects over a year ago until approved by the FDA for emergency use. Do you know of any of those first human test subjects having dropped dead? No? No wonder. Most serious side effects from new vaccines are found out within several months.

Tell me something, Arya Stark, do you not realize that back in November that Alex Jones during a talk he gave in front of the Georgia Guidestones Monument declared that the coming mRNA vaccines would turn you into a GMO creature? He has been wrong on so many other things, such as declaring the Sandy Hook mass shooting a staged hoax. Just last Thursday, the loud, highly emotional tirade Jones let loose against the covid vaccines was just beyond irrational and totally untrue. It takes a profoundly gullible fool to take him seriously!
You really only addressed a couple of things, which does not constitute "most".

As of right now, it appears that mask use will indeed go on for some time, so that doesn't exactly sound like a lie.

I'm pretty sure the death rate from the vaccine is pretty close to what she said. And clearly that's not the likelihood of someone dying of Covid-19. That only applies to someone that actually contracted the disease. The likelihood of someone dying of Covid-19 is much lower than 1%

Based on Anthony Fauci assessments, we need to get close to 90% of the public vaccinated for herd immunity. Until we include children in that mix, that's actually not possible. He also openly admitted to lying when he first said we need to shoot for somewhere between 70-75%.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/h...ronavirus.html

I'm also not sure how you could possibly know the long term effects on a vaccine that has been out for such a short time. But do tell.

Sounds like quite a bit of what she said is pretty much on the mark, no?
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Old 05-10-2021, 06:30 AM
 
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Now that is some tinfoil right there.

- Fact, these vaccines are experimental and no one knows the long term effects.
- Fact, the death rate from Covid is less than 1%.. mostly above 60 and over weight.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not work to stop the spread of corona.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not keep you safe from hospitalization or death.
- Fact, the experimental vaccine does not allow you to return to normal.. you still need a mask.
- Fact, even with the experimental vaccine the CDC says we will not reach heard immunity.
- Fact, there are many people who cannot get the experimental vaccine due to health issues.
- Fact, there are many people the experimental vaccine will not protect... immunosuppressed.
- Fact, Fauci admits he lies about things to manipulate the people... the people have seen many lies from the medical community... it is the medical community that lies to achieve a purpose.
Wow all that and not one source given to back up such ridiculous claims. I see nothing but opinions and speculation here. No facts are present. So easy for you to spew out misinformation without even giving one piece of data to back up that nonsense you spit out on a daily basis. Are you even capable of providing reliable information?
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