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Hah no it doesn't, the mortality rate of a disease is among people who have caught the disease. You generate a non-stop chain of hilarious responses that indicate a very fundamental misunderstanding of that which you post so much about.
The 1.8% mortality rate for Covid19 you're using is: {total deaths from Covid} / {confirmed Covid cases}. But actual mortality rate is calculated from total cases (not just confirmed cases). Obviously for Covid19, we're not catching all cases by some multiple. The mortality rate is estimated to be 0.5% for Covid19 for all ages, and falls once we remove 75+ age set, to something like a bad flu season.
If you'd like I can provide examples of all, in fact I can provide all three from someone posting in this thread.
By all means do. And while you're at, explain the definition of anti-vaxxers and how you ascertain who fits that definition so we can ensure they fit your silly stereotype.
No, one cannot conclude from the existence of asymptomatic cases that "we've" been exposed, that is yet another link in the endless chain of false assumptions by you. USA has a mortality rate of about 1.8%, which classifies it as a very serious disease despite your attempts to downplay it.
The anti-vaxxer playbook:
1. This pandemic that has killed 570k Americans in a year is not serious.
2. These vaccines with very high efficacy don't work
3. These vaccines with very good safety record aren't safe
All of these are demonstrably false.
True...the anti-vaxx disinformation playbook infiltrates any topic on city data as well that mentions vaccines with many threads being closed by moderators as they devolve into bullying and personal attacks.
No, one cannot conclude from the existence of asymptomatic cases that "we've" been exposed, that is yet another link in the endless chain of false assumptions by you. USA has a mortality rate of about 1.8%, which classifies it as a very serious disease despite your attempts to downplay it.
The anti-vaxxer playbook:
1. This pandemic that has killed 570k Americans in a year is not serious.
2. These vaccines with very high efficacy don't work
3. These vaccines with very good safety record aren't safe
All of these are demonstrably false.
You can't get around the truth. Your opinions aren't truth. Name calling is not an argument.
To add: If you are assuming the majority of people AREN'T infected ... than the authorities have misinformed the public about the possible transmission rates. It's not as infectious as they were claiming.
So which is it:
Highly infectious and deadly? If so, the majority would be infected and/or sick and/or dead.
You are now claiming that's NOT true and that you are assuming that people have NOT been exposed. Which means it's NOT highly infectious and/or deadly.
Just unbelievable. Talking out of both sides of your mouth and coming to the same conclusion. Not logical.
You can't get around the truth. Your opinions aren't truth. Name calling is not an argument.
To add: If you are assuming the majority of people AREN'T infected ... than the authorities have misinformed the public about the possible transmission rates. It's not as infectious as they were claiming.
So which is it:
Highly infectious and deadly? If so, the majority would be infected and/or sick and/or dead.
You are now claiming that's NOT true and that you are assuming that people have NOT been exposed. Which means it's NOT highly infectious and/or deadly.
Just unbelievable. Talking out of both sides of your mouth and coming to the same conclusion. Not logical.
Back to ... your OPINIONS aren't truth.
The virus us highly infections with a R0 around 3. Countermeasures brought it down but not enough to control it, at least not in this country and multiple others. Kindergarten math is an important subject, not to be skipped.
But you can protest in the street with no restrictions.
Totally this, along with fact that travelers to America and even Americans themselves are supposed to get vaccinated and we're supposed to even get vaccine passports with an experimental chemical with no long term studies to show it's safe. But then people are allowed to walk right across the border without getting tested at all and disappear in US society? And people from countries like India with the worst COVID outbreak and vaccine resistant mutants are allowed for weeks to just fly into the USA? The self appointed COVID19 police are totally inconsistent, and this why two thirds of American adults don't trust them when they try to push vaccines on us, esp on our kids and grandkids at low risk of.
That is not news, just confirmation of the same situation that exists with all vaccines.
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Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree
The 1.8% mortality rate for Covid19 you're using is: {total deaths from Covid} / {confirmed Covid cases}. But actual mortality rate is calculated from total cases (not just confirmed cases). Obviously for Covid19, we're not catching all cases by some multiple. The mortality rate is estimated to be 0.5% for Covid19 for all ages, and falls once we remove 75+ age set, to something like a bad flu season.
Sure, take out the 75 + and, BINGO!, the numbers look better.
Since you cannot reliably know the total number of cases of either measles or COVID-19, the case fatality rate is used rather than mortality rate. Then you compare case fatality rates.
Yes, for the virus with a 99% recovery rate, anti-vaxxers would never be satisficed with the vaccine, no matter how many years of testing that it goes through. Whats so hard to understand?
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