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Old 05-03-2021, 11:04 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Retired View Post
Response: Opinion

The mortality rate for the Unites States are not adding up.
The death rate has consistently risen on average by .100
since 2013 and consistently hovered around 8% since
2004.................

Year..........Death Rate
2021.........8.977
2020........ 8.880
2019.........8.782
2018.........8.685
2017.........8.580
2016.........8.474
2015.........8.369
2014.........8.264
2013.........8.159
2012.........8.152
2011.........8.145
2010.........8.138
2009.........8.131
2008........8.124
2007........8.203
2006........8.282
2005........8.362
2004........8.441

Which leads to the next question?

Will I allow big pharma to turn me into a Human GMO ?
I'll follow the Science and say No Thank you.

Now, time to go back to reality:


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778361
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:11 AM
 
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Start reading your local obituaries and you'll see many 20, 30, 40 and 50 somethings suddenly passing away or dying unexpectedly. These are people who got vaccinated. Facebook must be doing gymnastics censoring the " I got my shot" posts and then having their death notices.
55% of US adults have been vaccinated. Of course you are going to see vaccinated people die. Do you think the vaccination makes people live everlasting? People 20, 30, 40 and 50 have been suddenly passing away for centuries. Do you think the vaccination is going to save anyone that's been vaccinated from dying in a car wreck, from drowning, from having a heart attack, from homicide.
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Something does not add up here. The American public will believe anything and everything.

For weeks they seem to cheerlead on the vaccine, while downplaying legitimate questions and ignoring it. There is very little transperancy and the numbers don't look good.

If it's so effective at preventing hospitalizations and deaths, why is the rate similar to before the vaccine.

I know I have been vaccinated twice and had severe, severe body aches plus had fever, stomach aches and sore arm.

It seems like there is a tremendous amount of break-through cases. They claim that is expected but the reports only have a sampling of states.

I was surprised that the hospitalization rate was 9% for those who had the vaccine who tested positive, I know there were some states that had hospitalization rates much lower than that before the vaccine

The case fatality rate is 1.4%, which is slightly lower than the 1.8% but that 1.8% includes last Spring.

Supposedly, they say that this happens because of existing anti-bodies from before.

9% of those who have had vaccine who caught COVID-19 were hospitalized

The report is incomplete and does not include all states.

https://thejewishvoice.com/2021/05/a...tion-132-dead/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Many are sick for months in the hospital and then pass. This is a terrible virus.
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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From the beginning the statistical data that is reported is missing a lot of data, i.e. asymptomatic cases, mild cases, serious cases, etc.

Control and power is the way America is being ruled today.

I was recently in the hospital on an unrelated illness. Two doctors and five or six nurses told me that many of the deaths attributed to Covid were actually from another condition. If a patient dies, tests positive, they put cause of death as Covid. Why? Hospitals get a lot more money!
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Old 05-03-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Retired View Post
Response: Opinion

The mortality rate for the Unites States are not adding up.
The death rate has consistently risen on average by .100
since 2013 and consistently hovered around 8% since
2004.................

Year..........Death Rate
2021.........8.977
2020........ 8.880
2019.........8.782
2018.........8.685
2017.........8.580
2016.........8.474
2015.........8.369
2014.........8.264
2013.........8.159
2012.........8.152
2011.........8.145
2010.........8.138
2009.........8.131
2008........8.124
2007........8.203
2006........8.282
2005........8.362
2004........8.441

Which leads to the next question?

Will I allow big pharma to turn me into a Human GMO ?
I'll follow the Science and say No Thank you.
The population of the US grows each year, therefore it is relative to deaths.
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Old 05-03-2021, 01:32 PM
 
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The population of the US grows each year, therefore it is relative to deaths.
Population growth in US is about 0.6% in recent years. So that does not come anywhere close to explaining the number of excess deaths since the start of the pandemic
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Old 05-03-2021, 01:38 PM
 
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Population growth in US is about 0.6% in recent years. So that does not come anywhere close to explaining the number of excess deaths since the start of the pandemic
Excess deaths are in the neighborhood of 1%. It does explain a good chunk of the excess. The excess deaths are computed to an average of previous years, so they will naturally not take into account yearly growth.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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Start reading your local obituaries and you'll see many 20, 30, 40 and 50 somethings suddenly passing away or dying unexpectedly. These are people who got vaccinated. Facebook must be doing gymnastics censoring the " I got my shot" posts and then having their death notices.
Yeah your right, My local obituary is 100 pages long. People say the darndest things.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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Apparently Mr. Retired doesn't follow any science.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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Excess deaths are a lot more than 1%. Where'd ya get that (low) number?
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