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Old 05-04-2021, 08:03 AM
 
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Has anybody had their doctor tell them NOT to get the vaccine?
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Originally Posted by Lital_The_Best View Post
Regardless, I agree. Take the politics out of vaccines.
Hilarious, when your opening post put the politics into the issue.

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Well keeping politics out of this lasted an entire 5 posts.
What's political about being patriotic?

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Are you a doctor or scientist that knows more than doctors and scientists who have said this?
No more than you are. Yet doctors are reporting long-term effects from contracting Covid-19. Given the medical information available to us, I'd rather take a chance on the vaccine than on the virus itself.

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Its funny how the "My Body My Choice" sentiment and crowd oddly enough don't apply that mantra to vaccines.
It's funny how abortion isn't contagious.

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Why the HECK should I let the government dictate how to treat my health and body? I think anyone who wants or thinks the government has your health as their best interest is out of their dang mind.

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If the government really cared about our health they would be mandating people get healthy.
We are full of contradictions today, aren't we?

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The drug companies aren't doing what is in the best interest of the country. Why no pressure on them? There is an opportunity to make the vaccine generic and available to all and they are fighting it tooth and nail.
Capitalism is so pesky.

I'm not saying I don't agree with you. But capitalism is the economic system we've chosen, and we have to live with it, warts and all.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Capitalism is so pesky.

I'm not saying I don't agree with you. But capitalism is the economic system we've chosen, and we have to live with it, warts and all.
There is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. In the case of the vaccine I will go one step further. Operation Warp Speed was paid for by the taxpayers. We are equal shareholders in the final product.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:21 AM
 
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That’s quite the assumption. I watch tv. I don’t have anxiety about these things. Are you assuming I didn’t get vaccinated?

Folks who are fretting about long term affects of the shot have every right to do so, especially since it was so rushed and already has serious side affects.

Why was the Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused?
This isn't about politics. It isn't about you, either.

The thread IS about people sharing observations from diverse places.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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So have you never ever had a vaccine of any kind?
Pretty sure I know where you're going with this, but I'll play it out and see if I'm right.

Yes, why?
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I will say the "the vaccine was rushed" cry, from general anti-government (bureaucracy, dumb rules, etc) crowds, is pretty ironic. We got Pfizer - and the others - because the FDA/CDC said "go get an effective and safe vaccine, and forget about the typical years-long red tape."
Let's talk about that for a sec.

I've posted several times that the issue most people have with this vaccine is that it hasn't gone through the same processes that previous vaccines and drugs were subjected to.

Included in those posts was the simple logic that if those processes are required to produce a product which is known to be at least relatively safe and effective, then the current vaccines being distributed haven't been proven as such. If those processes aren't required to produce a safe and effective product and these new vaccines are safe, then how many have died or suffered incredibly while waiting for approvals on other drugs or vaccines because of that corruption/"red tape"?

There's only two ways to look at it. Either the vaccine hasn't been proven yet, or the process is corrupt and people have suffered and died as a result. It can't be neither.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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There is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. In the case of the vaccine I will go one step further. Operation Warp Speed was paid for by the taxpayers. We are equal shareholders in the final product.
OWS as part of CARES Act was funded from newly created Fed money. So taxpayers not directly involved.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I should have left out 'anti-vaxxers'. Most people don't seem to know or appreciate the patriotic need for vaccination right now.
Thanks, Pravda.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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Thanks, Pravda.
Another poster has been using a Russian based search engine Yandex for learning and making his or her vaccination decision. No better way for a foreign entity to instill political division.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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OWS as part of CARES Act was funded from newly created Fed money. So taxpayers not directly involved.
There is no such thing as "Fed Money". All of gov't is funded by taxpayers. Whether we pay for it now or are on the hook to pay it back later is irrelevant.
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