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Old 05-12-2021, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by SanJuanStar View Post
Coming from Democrats that voted for war criminal Biden, you are right but no credibility. 19 years of a big lie and still living a lie. You keep lying, you will be elected President in the Democrat Party.



There are still a few liberals that will call the lies and B.S. of Biden and the Democrat party in which the media refuses.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7_DjWkWG48
I'm confused by your posts here. Are you supporting the GOP, who overwhelmingly voted to stay in Afghanistan, or not?

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The Senate, where Trump's Republican Party enjoys a 53-47 majority, voted 68-23 to forward an amendment cautioning against any "precipitous withdrawal" from Afghanistan,
Forty-Three Republican Senators Vote to Rebuke Donald Trump's Plans to Withdraw From Syria and Afghanistan

 
Old 05-12-2021, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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From your link.

Today we face a threat America has never seen before,” Cheney said. “A former president who provoked a violent attack on this Capitol in an effort to steal the election”

Why would liz cheney claim trump committed a crime that due process has already acquitted him of?
What was the "due process" that acquitted Trump?
 
Old 05-12-2021, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Voting Liz Cheney out, isn't that cancel culture on steroids?
 
Old 05-12-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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Interesting......Believers in the “Big lie”

More than 120 retired generals and admirals wrote to Biden suggesting he wasn't legitimately elected and questioning his mental health

More than 120 retired US military leaders have signed an open letter appearing to advance a false conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was rigged and questioning President Joe Biden's mental capacity to serve.

"Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the 'will of the people' our Constitutional Republic is lost," said the letter released Tuesday by "Flag Officers 4 America," and signed by 124 former admirals and generals.

https://www.businessinsider.com/form...-health-2021-5
 
Old 05-12-2021, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Interesting......Believers in the “Big lie”

More than 120 retired generals and admirals wrote to Biden suggesting he wasn't legitimately elected and questioning his mental health

More than 120 retired US military leaders have signed an open letter appearing to advance a false conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was rigged and questioning President Joe Biden's mental capacity to serve.

"Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the 'will of the people' our Constitutional Republic is lost," said the letter released Tuesday by "Flag Officers 4 America," and signed by 124 former admirals and generals.

https://www.businessinsider.com/form...-health-2021-5
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Old 05-12-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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Liz Cheney's supporting The Big Lie and is not going to admit the election was stolen. She chose the deep state over the american people. Her choice.
 
Old 05-12-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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I'm confused by your posts here. Are you supporting the GOP, who overwhelmingly voted to stay in Afghanistan, or not?



Forty-Three Republican Senators Vote to Rebuke Donald Trump's Plans to Withdraw From Syria and Afghanistan

NOPE. I'm supporting the NEW GOP of America First that demands that we NO longer fight these wars and get out. Democrats used to believed that until Obama/Biden lied to the party but instead of fighting the Democrat establishment like Tulsi and others did, your party kicked her out, surrendered their principles and put a war criminal back in power that continues to lie about the war and that We should stay there forever.


I don't know what are you confused about. The fight has been always about the wars. Too bad you Democrats sold your principles and ignore the problem.




House Democrats, Working With Liz Cheney, Restrict Trump’s Planned Withdrawal of Troops From Afghanistan and Germany



https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/...n-and-germany/




You Democrats used to be for that, get out of the wars. That's why you rejected Hillary and Biden in 2008 and elected Obama. After Obama lied for 8 years, you Democrats surrendered your principles and bend the knee to the war hawks of Washington and pretend nothing is happening. It's a sad look of your party. Say what you want about the GOP, at least they are fighting in the party to keep the neo cons like Liz and the Bushes out from power. You really need to look at the sad state of your party and it will come to hunt your party.
 
Old 05-12-2021, 08:01 AM
 
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Liz Cheney's supporting The Big Lie and is not going to admit the election was stolen. She chose the deep state over the american people. Her choice.



Liz like her father lies about the wars that has been going on for 19 years and that we should stay there forever and that any American that disagrees with that is a Nazi Sympathizer and Democrats are defending that? LOL. Democrats sold their principles a while back. I realized they are not really against the wars or lies that they pretended to be against as long that are coming from a Democrat of power. It's a sad state what they have become. Long live the deep state.


When Biden gives a medal of freedom to W Bush, shows you the morons running our country. That's like giving a medal to Truman for dropping 2 Atomic bombs on the wrong country and for lying about it.
 
Old 05-12-2021, 08:58 AM
 
Location: From Denver, CO to Hong Kong China
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GOP is the favorite to take congress in 2002. 1 seat way from taking the Senate and fully controls 22 states to 15 to the Democrats. Isn't that reality sadder for your party? LOL
Elections are cycles ... Democrats and Republicans win in a certain period of time ... but what matters is the narrative and the facts ... everything that conservatives feared is happening ... throughout the conservative and republican government in much of Trump. .. liberals continued to dictate the direction of the nation, showing that they are indeed in power ... during 4 years of trump, they managed to end the confidence of a large part of the population in the police itself. They do not hiding more that they are putting their ideology in front of everything and everywhere ... schools, TV, music and even companies ... Years of indoctrination against America have led the white American population to demographic decline, and the demographic stagnation of black population ... encouraged immigration as a way to break the traditional fabric and change American values ​​inside, and today immigrants are responsible for all population growth, in many parts of the country Spanish has already become the official language. years of liberal indoctrination also led the American LGBT population to revolt against the American Christian population, it was necessary not only to revolt against conservatism in the law, but to attack ferociously and mortally Christianity incessantly day by day. every day, taking advantage of all the traumas of that population, placing Christianity as the cause of all this ... as a result of this attack, Christianity began to decline as a religion and the hemorrhaging of faiths leaving their congregations does not stop.

Liberals don't just dislike conservatives, they hate them deeply and if it is necessary to ally themselves with America's enemies, just to end American conservatives, liberals will do ... even if it costs their own future ... So it's easy understand, movements like Gays for the end of Islamophobia ... Progressives in favor of China and Russia and other contradictory aberrations.

And you are concerned with who will win the congress in 2022 or who will win the presidency in 2024 ... and you cannot realize that America is already over, there is no salvation, decay is inevitable ... someday every empire ends and America's day arrived, just as it came to Ancient Egypt, The Roman Empire, Persian .... the liberals, even losing in 2022 or 2024, have already won the main victory which is to end America.
 
Old 05-12-2021, 10:10 AM
 
Location: FL
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Republicans appear to be morons believing the big lie.
In addition to failing in 63 lawsuits. Trumps own attorneys say there is no evidence of electoral fraud in their court pleadings and in court

Giuliani said in open court there was no fraud . Many of trumps lawyers stated in open court no fraud.
Fox News and newsmax read on air retractions saying no fraud.
The CISA,DOJ and FBI found no fraud.
Republicans election officials found no fraud.
Now Sydney Powell said no rational person would believe her fraud claims

Attorney General William Barr said in an interview that the Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would tip the results of the presidential election, a comment directly undercutting allegations being made by President Donald Trump and his legal team.
“To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the Associated Press


3rd circuit court of appeals
The court said it would not issue an injunction to undo the certification because “the Campaign’s claims have no merit.”

“The number of ballots it specifically challenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters,” the court found.

Republican senator Sasse statement

“And based on what I’ve read in their filings, when Trump campaign lawyers have stood before courts under oath, they have repeatedly refused to actually allege grand fraud –because there are legal consequences for lying to judges,"

Chris Christie who was in the Oval Office helping trump prepare for the debates said
"They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but inside the courtroom they don't plead fraud and they don't argue fraud.

Trump RNC lawyer in Arizona

attorney Kory Langhofer stressed the plaintiffs were "not alleging fraud" or "that anyone is stealing the election" — simply raising concerns about a "limited number of cases" involving "good faith errors."

Giuliani in Pennsylvania

And when Brann pressed Giuliani to explain why none of the specific legal claims in the suit are based on voter fraud, the president’s lawyer admitted the campaign isn’t pleading voter fraud at all. Later, Brann asked whether he should apply a higher legal standard of “strict scrutiny” to the case, which is required when fraud is alleged.

“If we had alleged fraud, then yes, but this is not a fraud case,” Giuliani said quickly.

Trump campaign lawyer Goldstein in Pennsylvania

“In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct?” asked the judge. “That’s correct?”

“Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” Goldstein replied. “And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.”


“I understand,” he told Goldstein. “I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?”

“To my knowledge at present, no,” Goldstein said.

“Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots,” queried the judge.

“To my knowledge at present, no,” was Goldstein’s reply.
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