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Interesting timing....this coming out at the same time.....Hey Trumpsters.....LISTEN. They are just trying to prevent the GOP being taken down by a pied piper. If you have to believe Trump's Big Lie to belong to the GOP, then they will no longer be a viable National Party. You don't win by shrinking your party....logic would suggest.
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I see a major political party in the throws of decay.
More like a renaissance.
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Not really.....just watching the GOP in a meltdown. More like watching a train wreck.
There is no meltdown. There is just some necessary change to address the reality of what GOP voters are up against. GOP leaders have to be willing to challenge the DC establishment and deep state or there is no point to the party's existence. Losing slowly isn't good enough. The GOP has to fight back for a change.
She doesn't give a rats rear end about her critics, she cares about the truth. She rated a near perfect score as a conservative by the Heritage Foundation, but then along came Jan 6.
She cares about the truth like endless wars and endless occupations? yeah, keep repeating the B.S.
She is a NEO CON like her father. That's the battle in the GOP that she will lose. Why would liberals care if Cheney keeps a leadership position in the party? You have to love the hypocrisy of liberals. They hated the neo cons when they held power but now care that Liz keeps her leadership position in the party.
That's like Democrats kicking AOC from the leadership position in the party and Republicans coming to her defense. Weird!
It doesn't effect the democrats, so. The problem is the republican party is heading way far right and that is bad for the country. When a committee head is removed for telling the truth we are in serious trouble no matter the party. No one in the middle could possibly accept a removal for criticizing Trumps actions on the election, that is ROn Johnson territory.
please, stop with your B.S. If truth matters then Pelosi and Biden shouldn't hold office. The hypocrisy from the left has no limits and you are another example.
The democrats have gone far left but you are ok with it but complain if Cheney, a Neo Con and that the left hated when they were in power and started wars and bent the truth loses her leadership position in the party. Really?
This is about telling the truth right? like we live in a systematically racist nation, that cops are out to kill black people, the Russian hoax and the rest of the lies by the Democrats in power.
Democrats should sit this one out. No legs to stand on.
The Bush/Romney/Cheney crowd, you mean. Yeah, that is a very little club indeed, and that does not work in elections.
The base has a pretty clear idea of what it supports and the party will go forward with leaders that are supported by those voters. That is not Bush/Romney/Cheney, etc. Their day is done.
The GOP hasn’t completely gotten the message yet. Paul Ryan gave that #3 position to Liz Cheney right after she was first elected to Congress. Very odd position for a newby to hold. Mistake then, further mistake for McCarthy to keep her and now they will dump her .... Why Now?
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I don't care for the Neocon policies that Cheney supports but I do have respect for her for standing up for what she believed was the ethically correct thing to do.
Cheney is not the one this reflects badly on if she is banished from the Republican party.
How is she “ banished from the Republican Party”? She is an elected CongressCritter from the State of Wyoming .... they decide if she is elected again.
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I am not clear what she thinks she is doing. The House caucus and the Minority leader are lining up against her, and she was censured by the Wyoming Republican party. She has a strong opponent in the Republican primaries next year and her support in the polls in indicate she is very likely to lose in the primary.
And still she keeps on digging the hole that she is in deeper. She appears to be trying to commit political suicide.
If she wants out, all she has to do is announce she is not running for re-election. In fact, maybe she is positioning herself to do just that.
Wyoming has only one Representative and the entire Wyoming GOP unanimously Censored Liz Cheney.
She is unlikely to be elected again, despite the support of Jeff Flake, Adam Kissingtor, Mitt Romney, Chuck Todd & Nancy Pelosi. So what will she do next? Lucrative gigs on CNN, MSNBC as a “Republican” expert, Book Deals and High paid Lobbyist. Follow the MONEY.
There is no meltdown. There is just some necessary change to address the reality of what GOP voters are up against. GOP leaders have to be willing to challenge the DC establishment and deep state or there is no point to the party's existence. Losing slowly isn't good enough. The GOP has to fight back for a change.
They are hemorrhaging independents as we speak. And the DNC now has a center/right footing in the form of college educated suburban moms that used to lean GOP when it had adults. There is no Trumpism youth movement, just aging angry Boomer voters that have gone off the deep end. The MAGA well of voters has about dried up. The populist have split with the establishment and there isn't any demographic that will fill that void. When conspiracy theorist whackos become the face of a major political party that is nothing more than a sign of extreme decay. The Whig Party was a major political party in this country for decades...then the chasm became too great between the slave holding and free states that the party simply disappeared. That is what the GOP is going through right now....they will still win some Senate and House seats....but the lines are getting clearer and clearer.....the GOP is in a meltdown.
Lets see....the Bush/Romney/Cheney crowd and the conservative/populists are now two. Which means they are smaller electorates. Genius....simply genius strategery. The GOP is bleeding Independents and they are simply displaying the characteristics of a political party in decay. Research the Whigs....the chasm became too great within the party and they disappeared.
Both sides of the spectrum are having the same issue as they become more polarized, The pandemic and the post trump haze is buying the dnc some time, but at some point they are going to have to implement some of the bad ideas coming from the far left or implode in similar fashion. The solution is class based not race based, you certainly see this from the right I just dont think the Ted Cruz's and Josh Hawley's can siphon any labor democrats they are certainly trying, you can play a drinking game with the phrase "working class" any time those two talk.
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