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How do you know that it's not just due to the nature of a pandemic and how it sweeps through a herd (human or animal) ? You know...Darwin and natural selection.
It often happens that vaccines are rolled out when cases naturally start decreasing.
It clearly explains what emergency use authorization is. The word experimental is not used a single time.
When the actual consent is signed the person receiving the vaccine just acknowledges that s/he has read the data sheet.
Which confirms what we already knew... NewToVenice wasn't telling the truth when claiming people must sign something acknowledging they are experimental.
I've read some articles about it, there are various reasons but most boil down to lack of education or paranoia issues.
I would venture that some of them are educated about vaccines, EUA and FDA approval as well as possible long term effects which are not known at this time.
That is their choice, not yours. You get your shot and get on with your life.
People who are vaccinated are getting reinfected and some are dying.
People who are vaccinated are dying shortly after getting vaccinated.
Of course we are told it has nothing to do with the vaccine.
Proven ? 5 months of the public getting vaccinated proves NOTHING.
What do you mean by reinfected? How many vaccinated people are getting infected, then reinfected and what is the source for that information?
Reports of deaths after vaccination are not confirmation that the vaccine caused the death.
"We’re talking about treating very, very large populations, which means that you’re going to see the usual run of mortality and morbidity that you see across large samples. Specifically, if you take 10 million people and just wave your hand back and forth over their upper arms, in the next two months you would expect to see about 4,000 heart attacks. About 4,000 strokes. Over 9,000 new diagnoses of cancer. And about 14,000 of that ten million will die, out of usual all-causes mortality. No one would notice. That’s how many people die and get sick anyway.
But if you took those ten million people and gave them a new vaccine instead, there’s a real danger that those heart attacks, cancer diagnoses, and deaths will be attributed to the vaccine. I mean, if you reach a large enough population, you are literally going to have cases where someone gets the vaccine and drops dead the next day (just as they would have if they *didn’t* get the vaccine). It could prove difficult to convince that person’s friends and relatives of that lack of connection, though. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is one of the most powerful fallacies of human logic, and we’re not going to get rid of it any time soon. Especially when it comes to vaccines. The best we can do, I think, is to try to get the word out in advance. Let people know that such things are going to happen, because people get sick and die constantly in this world. The key will be whether they are getting sick or dying at a noticeably higher rate once they have been vaccinated."
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How do you know that it's not just due to the nature of a pandemic and how it sweeps through a herd (human or animal) ? You know...Darwin and natural selection.
In Israel it is the vaccine reducing the case count:
In the UK Cases, hospital admissions and deaths have fallen steeply among all groups (the 'restrictions effect'), but have fallen furthest and fastest among the older, most-vaccinated groups (vaccine effect). https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzgJqYhX...name=4096x4096
And it’s not just the very elderly who are benefiting. This chart (concept from) shows that as UK vaccinations have progressed down through the age groups, so has the vaccine effect, with under-60s the latest to join the party. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzgJ00OW...jpg&name=large
B.1.1.7’s arrival in the US threatened one of the world’s most impressive vaccination rollouts, but as in France the data suggest the vaccines are prevailing
B.1.1.7 sent hospitalizations rising, but only among the [less vaccinated] young. Rates among elderly continue to drop
To be clear, the planet as a whole is still far from out of the woods but the data is clear, the vaccines are working. Now is that enough data for you?
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People who are vaccinated are getting reinfected and some are dying.
Do you have the data on this?
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People who are vaccinated are dying shortly after getting vaccinated.
Of course we are told it has nothing to do with the vaccine.
Only a handful of these cases have been confirmed and they are trying to figure out what happened but these cases are extremely rare.
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Proven ? 5 months of the public getting vaccinated proves NOTHING.
What are the efficacy rates for each? Each is different. Did you know that?
How many can actual PROMOTE the fact that they can prevent infection? Only 1 can say that. Do you know which one?
Isn't that what a vaccine is supposed to do? PREVENT you from getting sick? Yes. Yes it is.
But how can it be called a vaccine when it doesn't prevent illness?
*crickets*
Yes they do cut down on someone getting infected pretty dramatically. All the data in the previous post shows that.
The efficacy rate for the Pfizer one in Israel has a 95% efficacy rate and has proven from Israel's 7-day average of daily coronavirus cases, from 6,882 in February to 63. How do you explain that? Is that just magic?
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