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Old 09-09-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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There are women with children who overcame all of the excuses you're trying to dish out. Convenience simply is NOT a valid reason to kill a human life.
Yes there are and there are those who dont overcome the "inconveniences". That has nothing to do with the fact that a married women having a planned pregnancy with a financially and emotionally supportive spouse and family will never know or understand the struggles and fears of facing pregnancy, birth and single motherhood alone as would someone who faces an unplanned pregnancy with a greatly different life and circumstances than hers.

Again, historically mankind has develop methods of BC and abortion to avoid having children (not to mention engaging in infanticide) for the same conveniences.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Harris is a former "escort". I can't see her being objective.
And trump was her first clientele!!!
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes there are and there are those who dont overcome the "inconveniences". That has nothing to do with the fact that a married women having a planned pregnancy with a financially and emotionally supportive spouse and family will never know or understand the struggles and fears of facing pregnancy, birth and single motherhood alone as would someone who faces an unplanned pregnancy with a greatly different life and circumstances than hers.
That doesn't matter. I don't need to know John Wayne Gacy's struggles in life to understand that what he did, killed other humans, is wrong.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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Wonder how this will play out for Texas longer term.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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It doesn't matter since trying to ban or greatly restrict abortion is going on much more than over 10 years ago. Therefore, more people seeking Plan D at the stores and likely still clerks around trying not to stop people from buying it.
Access to emergency contraception has increased over the years. Also if you have to find a 12 year old story to highlight an issue, it’s probably not that big of one.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:01 PM
 
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If only that's what they were. The bottom line is that women were negligent by choice in 95% of all unintended pregnancies. They CHOSE pregnancy as a possible outcome of voluntarily CHOOSING to have sex. It's not like the pregnancy came out of the blue. Now all of the sudden they don't want to have to deal with what is a KNOWN possible outcome of an activity they VOLUNTARILY chose to do? Get outta here.
You get outta here lol.

Women are not required by law to even think about whether or not pregnancy will be a result of sex. Not advocating for that, but that is a fact.

They can take birth control that may or may not work, they can do everything right and still have things go sideways resulting in a pregnancy or they can throw caution to the wind and take their chances.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:06 PM
 
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It's not a penalty. In 95% of cases, it was her choice. The choice to get pregnant or not is made by the woman before she engages in sex. If she doesn't use birth control or uses it incorrectly, as is the case in 95% of all unintended pregnancies (Guttmacher), she has made the choice to accept pregnancy as a possible outcome of having sex.
If she is unable to care for her other children because she has another one she doesn't want or feel able to care for, it will certainly be a penalty or negative consequence to them.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:12 PM
 
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Faulty analogy. Uteruses aren't rationed.
Sure they are. Each woman gets one.

And, how are you going to decide which of your children to save if you can only save one? Or are you going to let both of them die because they are equally valuable.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:15 PM
 
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Then why do blue states have them?

Too late. That ship has sailed. Fetal homicide laws.
Because after Roe vs. Wade, dems took abortion rights for granted, which is why they were not written into federal law and why the nonsense here in TX (and other forced birth states) is happening. Very short-sighted and will hopefully be corrected.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:17 PM
 
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Neither is a person on temporary life support. So why don't we just actively kill them, the same thing that happens with abortion?
We do. Happening in hospitals all over the country as we speak.

We remove life support and a doctor writes a script for morphine that allows a nurse to deliver it to expedite death.
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