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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
In adult circles, it's known as "perspective". I also listen to Wagner, even though he was an anti-semitic bastard. Admire Picasso's art, even though he certainly had his faults. Admire Churchill's WWII statesmanship for all of of his imperialistic leanings. Because the sum of their contributions counts so much more than their flaws.
Lee? Threw in his talents and energy for a despicable cause. We should not raise statues for such as he.
Exactly.
Just as when we celebrate Charles Lindbergh, we're not celebrating Nazis, although he was one.
We're celebrating his courage and skill as a pioneering airplane pilot.
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So based on some of these comments they only hate certain slave owners. As long as they weren’t confederate and the media isn’t asking for the removal of G.W. or other slave owners their monuments can stay. Unless you’re Antifa or BLM where anything white needs to go.
Cool. Washington is more a acceptable than the Dukes of Hazard.
In adult circles, it's known as "perspective". I also listen to Wagner, even though he was an anti-semitic bastard. Admire Picasso's art, even though he certainly had his faults. Admire Churchill's WWII statesmanship for all of of his imperialistic leanings. Because the sum of their contributions counts so much more than their flaws.
Lee? Threw in his talents and energy for a despicable cause. We should not raise statues for such as he.
And Lee did many other things for the USA too.
I guess if Lee created some music you liked or owned slaves but also created the USA, you'd be cool with him.
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And Lee did many other things for the USA too.
I guess if Lee created some music you liked or owned slaves but also created the USA, you'd be cool with him.
Sounds pretty selfish to me.
I'm willing to listen.
What other contributions did Lee make, besides being an EXCELLENT general for the traitorous confederacy, that was fighting for the purpose of keeping their slaves in bondage.
He was certainly a great general, that's true, and could dance circles around Grant. He lost the war because the south had very little in the way of supplies for war. Thank God.
What other contributions did Lee make, besides being an EXCELLENT general for the traitorous confederacy, that was fighting for the purpose of keeping their slaves in bondage.
He was certainly a great general, that's true, and could dance circles around Grant. He lost the war because the south had very little in the way of supplies for war. Thank God.
He was a key figure in the Mexican-American war and worked with US Grant during that time.
He was superintendent at West Point, fought in the Indian Wars, and is considered one of America's greatest tacticians.
He also wrote the following in regard to slavery in a letter to his wife:
In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.
I'm pretty sure you book burners don't really know much about any of these people you wish to go back and cancel other than what race baiters tell you on TV.
If you say so. They are already trying to tear down GW and TJ and the like.
Admit it, it will be mainstream on the book burning left soon. The confederates were the first, and easiest targets.
Once the pressure of being called a "racist" is too great, card carrying, virtuous liberal book burners will join the party.
It's inevitable and will be a real sticking point because we've based our society around these men.
You'll have to tow the party line too, likely.
I am not in favor of tearing down the statues of GW or TJ. I'm still going to be in favor of tearing down/removing ALL Confederate monuments. Telling me that some people will go after GW or TJ isn't enough to change my stance on Confederate monuments.
By the way, alot of Black people have viewed Confederate monuments negatively for a long time. Many people just didn't care what alot of Blacks had to say.
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