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I've noticed that little else is being offered other than whataboutisms and gaslighting. Most of the stuff showing what the Confederates were about can't be refuted. Rather than refute, the next course of action is to present whataboutisms. When that doesn't work, gaslighting comes up.
that is because for some folks if they are truly honest about slavery they will say they dont think it was that bad since it was protected by “laws” or they know its so cruel to admit it would make them feel guilty.
No one should feel guilty for slavery today.. but damn, is it really that hard to say it was an ugly stain our our history and we shouldn’t praise those who were willing to die to defend it.
what is funny is people on the other side always trying to make the left into Nazi’s or the Taliban or Apartheid.
Meanwhile it’s republicans in Texas making it a felony to get an abortion or see a hooker….
Who’s the real American Taliban…
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Originally Posted by Feltdesigner
that is because for some folks if they are truly honest about slavery they will say they dont think it was that bad since it was protected by “laws” or they know its so cruel to admit it would make them feel guilty.
No one should feel guilty for slavery today.. but damn, is it really that hard to say it was an ugly stain our our history and we shouldn’t praise those who were willing to die to defend it.
Slavery wasn’t even good for the whites of the south. Brought nothing but high levels of poverty and a lack of jobs for the south. Only ones that benefited were rich landowners.
I have to ask because of this. The majority of African-Americans are southerners. More African-Americans live in the South than any other regions. I can confirm this. I live in the South. The U.S. Census will confirm this. A majority of African-Americans are in favor of taking down Confederate monuments and not having the Confederate flag flying from public buildings. I don't think ALL of the locals will complain. Last I checked, African-Americans aren't complaining. Polls have been done on this.
The Confederacy was founded to stop progression towards freedom. The US was founded to further progression towards freedom. One is honorable, one isn't. I'll leave the determination as to which is which as an exercise for the reader.
Is there any comparison imaginable in which Washington doesn't trump some trite television show?
Bo and Luke Duke never owned hundreds of slaves like GW did.
They never codified slaves to be 3/5ths of a person.
They were a fictitious TV show in the late 70s and early 80s that merely drove a car called the General Lee and they are banished!
No. I've established that there is a difference between what George Washington fought for vs what the Confederates fought for. I established that the Confederacy was only established for the explicit purpose of preserving the institution of slavery. That was not the USA's reason for being established. There is a big difference between the two, and failing to realize and accept this is petulance and nonsense.
Did GW own slaves? Did he say slaves were 3/5ths of a person?
Were the confederates fighting to keep slaves and the things the founders established?
If a person wants a Confederate flag or Confederate statue on their own private property, that is there choice. I won't have any respect for said persons. However, that is their choice.
Confederate statues and Confederate flags do not belong in public spaces. They should never be funded with public money.
But they are, have been, and can continue to be as long as the citizens (aka the taxpayers) wish.
Isn't that nice? Slavery is a an evil institution that the white man is taking on, at his own moral peril, so that he can lift the inferior races up to his own level. Even for the 1800s, that is some racist, self-serving, self-aggrandizing drivel of a rationalization.
Books are great. People should read books about Lee, get an idea of just how wholeheartedly contemptuous he was towards what he thought of as lesser races. He was an excessively harsh slavemaster, even for his day.
See, you learn history from books. Not statues.
What are your thoughts on what lincoln said? That Whites are naturally the superior race? You seem to be turning a blind eye to things that almost everyone said at the time.
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