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Old 07-04-2021, 06:24 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What BS. You blame everything on schools but where are the parents. Don't they get involved with teaching their kids as well. Parents instill their values and their beliefs on their children. Or at least they should. So why blame schools. You're basically saying parents aren't doing their job
We're probably looking at near 25 years of slow incremental change in schools.
The parents themselves are the product of that emerging change.

Gen X, Millennials, etc....they become parents who probably agree with the schools.


To change a society you start with the youth......do you understand that now ?
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Old 07-04-2021, 06:30 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I an wondering who has the insight and discernment to read what is happening today . If you do, what have you seen as the evidence of transforming this nation to either a One World Government or a Communist Nation.

Those who read the book 1984 will have more discernment about what is taking place here today.
Socialism is our future. Buffalo just elected a socialist mayor. This will be a trend. This new left bunch has control of Hollywood and all media. No stopping it.
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Old 07-04-2021, 07:14 PM
 
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Socialism is our future. Buffalo just elected a socialist mayor. This will be a trend. This new left bunch has control of Hollywood and all media. No stopping it.
More like Marxism, not socialism.
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Surely, far right conservatives were asking the same thing years ago in 2009 as Obama was in the middle of his first year. I didn't see any evidence of that in 2009 and still don't in 2021. Communism has been dead since late 1991. People who insist, otherwise, surely take the radical rantings of Alex Jones seriously. He is a radical who in turn takes a handful of radicals seriously that few people do.
Conservatives on the far right have been asking this same old question ever since 1903, the only time the American Communist Party was a real thing.
By 1919, 7 years later, the party was a thing of the past, shriveled down to near nothingness, but those 7 years scared every conservative so much they never recovered.

It was just another American political fad. There had been many before it and many more followed it in the
years to come. These fads are still rising and falling today.

But the Communist boogie man has been very useful to the far right ever since. Every time the far right goes too far and get in trouble, hey pull the boogie man out, wave him around and start telling everyone to start looking under their beds.

Hey! Don't look at us! We're the real patriots here! Go look for them Com'nists!

It worked for the KKK, for Father McGouglin, for Joe McCarthy, The American Bund, George Wallace, Richard Nixon, and Donald Trump. And a host of others, like Jesse Helms, the Bushes, and Lee Atwater.

It's a mighty worn dog whistle, but it still seems to have a few toots left in it.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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Socialism is our future. Buffalo just elected a socialist mayor. This will be a trend. This new left bunch has control of Hollywood and all media. No stopping it.
If they push it far enough, it will lead to civil war.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:10 PM
 
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We're probably looking at near 25 years of slow incremental change in schools.
The parents themselves are the product of that emerging change.

Gen X, Millennials, etc....they become parents who probably agree with the schools.


To change a society you start with the youth......do you understand that now ?



I went to catholic schools all my life. Now that was an indoctrination which I broke free from as I got older. We don't need to change our society. We need to let people find their own way and beliefs.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:16 PM
 
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I an wondering who has the insight and discernment to read what is happening today . If you do, what have you seen as the evidence of transforming this nation to either a One World Government or a Communist Nation.

Those who read the book 1984 will have more discernment about what is taking place here today.
A moto of the United Nations is "Think Global, Act Local". The United Nations has been implementing its Sustainable Development Agenda (aka Agenda 21, and Agenda 2030) in our communities for decades. Sustainable Development policies are not compatible with our Declaration of Independence or U.S. Constitution. Local governments pass UN policies in exchange for Federal or private grant money. When elected officials do this, they are essentially selling our freedom for grant money.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Conservatives on the far right have been asking this same old question ever since 1903, the only time the American Communist Party was a real thing.
By 1919, 7 years later, the party was a thing of the past, shriveled down to near nothingness, but those 7 years scared every conservative so much they never recovered.

It was just another American political fad. There had been many before it and many more followed it in the
years to come. These fads are still rising and falling today.

But the Communist boogie man has been very useful to the far right ever since. Every time the far right goes too far and get in trouble, hey pull the boogie man out, wave him around and start telling everyone to start looking under their beds.

Hey! Don't look at us! We're the real patriots here! Go look for them Com'nists!

It worked for the KKK, for Father McGouglin, for Joe McCarthy, The American Bund, George Wallace, Richard Nixon, and Donald Trump. And a host of others, like Jesse Helms, the Bushes, and Lee Atwater.

It's a mighty worn dog whistle, but it still seems to have a few toots left in it.
C span ran the 100 year anniversary of Communism with XI talking about how great Communism is.. they aired it today on our Independence Day. Not by accident. But by choice. Such praises of Communism and marxism and the collective. How hundreds of millions of party members make up their communist party.



Since when do we air he anniversary of any country ? Just China who killed off over 600,000 Americans and still counting. It made me sick to my stomach .. especially airing in on the 4th of July . The birth of democracy.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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C span ran the 100 year anniversary of Communism with XI talking about how great Communism is.. they aired it today on our Independence Day. Not by accident. But by choice. Such praises of Communism and marxism and the collective. How hundreds of millions of party members make up their communist party.



Since when do we air he anniversary of any country ? Just China who killed off over 600,000 Americans and still counting. It made me sick to my stomach .. especially airing in on the 4th of July . The birth of democracy.
Why don't you take it up with C-Span?
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:43 PM
 
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I an wondering who has the insight and discernment to read what is happening today . If you do, what have you seen as the evidence of transforming this nation to either a One World Government or a Communist Nation.

Those who read the book 1984 will have more discernment about what is taking place here today.

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“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
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“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.”


― George Orwell, 1984


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