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Old 07-11-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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So you think "rising up" is the answer because you're not doing too well right now? What about VOTING, as was designed for this country?
Future voting is irrelevant if election integrity is not restored.
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:49 PM
 
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I was just thinking about this. See screenname.

Is there any time the people will actually RISE UP and stop this?

I love Republicans as they are not Democrats and Trump 2024 but.. Wow we really are not doing too well right now, are we.
There comes a time when the people's rights are infringed to the point where they would rise up. It would get VERY UGLY and must be avoided if at all possible.

ALL LEGAL OPTIONS MUST BE EXHAUSTED FIRST
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:58 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The Marxist Want To Destroy America. We Need To Be Aware!

I've been aware of it for at least 20 years. But when lemmings start jumping, they are likely impossible to stop. Disconnect is the only way to avoid being swept over the edge with the lemmings. Unfortunately, very few are ready for that. They'd rather sink with the Titanic.
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:04 PM
 
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There comes a time when the people's rights are infringed to the point where they would rise up. It would get VERY UGLY and must be avoided if at all possible.

ALL LEGAL OPTIONS MUST BE EXHAUSTED FIRST
Agree. The ideas behind this are both enticing and toxic and people can be shown that with persuasive arguments, I believe. I would think something as out-of-left-field as indoctrination programs would be a big red flag. Never mind the proposals from the democrats to basically nationalize everything possible, which screams power grab. We have to get past the first stage though, acceptance.

It's actually way earlier than any of them would have ever wanted to be exposed. They don't have nearly what they need for absolute power grab and a move to The Empire. I do think those on the right, at least some, right now are essentially the "rebel forces." Pesky thorns in their sides.
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I've been aware of it for at least 20 years. But when lemmings start jumping, they are likely impossible to stop. Disconnect is the only way to avoid being swept over the edge with the lemmings. Unfortunately, very few are ready for that. They'd rather sink with the Titanic.

When O'Reilly was on Fox , I E-mailed him about the take over by the democrats and make it a one party system . Now he gets it. Kind of late . This was many many years ago.


Yes , the group think people have no brain. The just stay under the banner and are told want to think.
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Old 07-11-2021, 07:07 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIZ9KGlgts

this was posted before and is a self proclaimed "leftist educational video".
Oh ya, it's pretty interesting. Especially the history of McArthyism.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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Agree. The ideas behind this are both enticing and toxic and people can be shown that with persuasive arguments, I believe. I would think something as out-of-left-field as indoctrination programs would be a big red flag. Never mind the proposals from the democrats to basically nationalize everything possible, which screams power grab. We have to get past the first stage though, acceptance.

It's actually way earlier than any of them would have ever wanted to be exposed. They don't have nearly what they need for absolute power grab and a move to The Empire. I do think those on the right, at least some, right now are essentially the "rebel forces." Pesky thorns in their sides.
Acceptance isn't going to fly...on our side anyway...
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Not only that but they are using progressives as a means to an end. Real marxism is not the socialist utopian melting pot where everyone gets UBI like the left wants... it's a homogeneous police state where dissenting thought is not allowed and useless eaters get quietly dealt with.
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Old 07-11-2021, 08:07 PM
 
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Not only that but they are using progressives as a means to an end. Real marxism is not the socialist utopian melting pot where everyone gets UBI like the left wants... it's a homogeneous police state where dissenting thought is not allowed and useless eaters get quietly dealt with.
They think that this time, they can do it better...
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Old 07-12-2021, 06:34 PM
 
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When the money goes to those who are old as SS does, the person has a choice to work or retire. They also have their paychecks docked for SS . The also have their SS check docked for healthcare and to be fully covered one must have gap insurance to pay for the extra 20% the medicare does not cover. It is not a freebie.
You are suffering under an illusion.

Socialism is not about freebies. You are fighting a figment of your imagination. It's not your fault, you have been misled.

Social Security is doing something the private enterprise system could do, but they would not make enough money at it. Private enterprise would skim a profit off of Social Security and keep some of those hard earned dollars from the rightful recipients. The system we have today is owned by the people who use it: the American people. We all share the risk and the rewards, it is insurance against destitution in one's sunset years.

It's about sharing and caring, not freebies.

Full disclosure, I am on Social Security and Medicare myself, at my age my benefit is not reduced if I work.

When Social Security was introduced, it was fought tooth and nail by the Republicans, and the Republican Party has had a longstanding goal of dismantling the program. What was the argument the Republicans made against Social Security in the 1930's?

You guessed it: creeping communism.

The same argument they make against national health care today.

It other words this is the old Republican playbook. We have seen it all before.

These are the kinds of programs you are attacking on this thread, you view them as something frightful and dangerous, but that is only because you have been fed these fears for a long time. The truth is we are not headed into the abyss or anything like that, and Marxists are not slowly taking over our country.
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