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Old 07-17-2021, 07:17 PM
 
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Joe Biden has hit several highs over 50% kind of shows how unpopular Trump really was. His claims of rigged election only pushes more voters over to the Democrat side.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...g/?cid=rrpromo
Once Trump lost the conservative support, his popularity died. Biden will not fair well in 2024 if there's a conservative candidate. The only reason Biden won was because there was no conservative candidate in 2020.

 
Old 07-17-2021, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Once Trump lost the conservative support, his popularity died. Biden will not fair well in 2024 if there's a conservative candidate. The only reason Biden won was because there was no conservative candidate in 2020.
I disagree as long as Trump is around Biden will win Likely the country will be well into a recovery by then and incumbents almost always win when things are good. Trump lost because of Covid how he handled it as well as the George Floyd protesting.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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I disagree as long as Trump is around Biden will win Likely the country will be well into a recovery by then and incumbents almost always win when things are good. Trump lost because of Covid how he handled it as well as the George Floyd protesting.
Trump won't run in 2024... he doesn't have the support.

Trump lost because conservatives didn't like a liberal hack running on the republican ticket. The republican party is picking up the pieces and will have a competent candidate in 2024 (hopefully).

Biden hasn't done much to garner support for the long run (yet). He still has time though.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I disagree as long as Trump is around Biden will win Likely the country will be well into a recovery by then and incumbents almost always win when things are good. Trump lost because of Covid how he handled it as well as the George Floyd protesting.
Biden can barely finish a sentence now without 40mg of Adderall shot up his arm and you think he's got seven years left in him for this job? You think we are gonna go on with this woke double standard hypocrite racist crap until 2028? You're gonna be in for a surprise next November.

It is obvious to anyone whether you like Biden or not he is stressed and tired, just too old for the job. He doesn't have 1/20th the energy Trump did as president.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 08:12 PM
 
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Biden can barely finish a sentence now without 40mg of Adderall shot up his arm and you think he's got seven years left in him for this job? You think we are gonna go on with this woke double standard hypocrite racist crap until 2028? You're gonna be in for a surprise next November.

It is obvious to anyone whether you like Biden or not he is stressed and tired, just too old for the job. He doesn't have 1/20th the energy Trump did as president.
And yet he was still the better candidate of the two. It's a shame what options we had the last election. The good news is that both these hacks will be history.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Biden can barely finish a sentence now without 40mg of Adderall shot up his arm and you think he's got seven years left in him for this job? You think we are gonna go on with this woke double standard hypocrite racist crap until 2028? You're gonna be in for a surprise next November.

It is obvious to anyone whether you like Biden or not he is stressed and tired, just too old for the job. He doesn't have 1/20th the energy Trump did as president.
The only way Biden doesn't win if he doesn't run again. If he does run he likely win, so yes we will go to 2028. You will just have to suffer though 8 years of Joe Biden. What will matter is if 2022 Republicans are able to gain majority in the house. Trump continues to promote election rigging he likely have an effect on those who run for office in those states. GOP congressmen will have to promote the rigging of the election which will be a big turn off for majority of independent voters.

When November 2023 comes around covid will be long gone with 2-3% unemployment rate as economy rebounds. People talk about inflation but it's more political rhetoric then reality by next year most shortages will be fixed and prices will fall.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Oil imports from OPEC was lowest in before Trump took office went up under Trump then dropped again in 2019 when he was leaving office. The idea that America was ever "oil independent" was more political rhetoric then reality. Most people don't even know what the EIA is they just repeat what politicians, or right wing entertainment shows tell them.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nd-exports.php
So you forgot that during the Obama and his wife Micheals 8 years the price of fuel was over $4 a gallon. Many trucking companies closed their doors and it put a lot of people out of work. Yes it was high in the beginning of President Trump's term and it took time for him to get it settled down below $2 a gallon.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Biden can barely finish a sentence now without 40mg of Adderall shot up his arm and you think he's got seven years left in him for this job? You think we are gonna go on with this woke double standard hypocrite racist crap until 2028? You're gonna be in for a surprise next November.

It is obvious to anyone whether you like Biden or not he is stressed and tired, just too old for the job. He doesn't have 1/20th the energy Trump did as president.
Biden is even more so a babbling idiot now than he ever was before. I doubt that he's going to finish out his term as it is. Then we'll be stuck with the cackling bafoon harris and the drunk nasty pelosi.
 
Old 07-17-2021, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So you forgot that during the Obama and his wife Micheals 8 years the price of fuel was over $4 a gallon. Many trucking companies closed their doors and it put a lot of people out of work. Yes it was high in the beginning of President Trump's term and it took time for him to get it settled down below $2 a gallon.
The statement was made that America was "oil independent" under Trump I'm showing you a link that is 100% not true.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nd-exports.php

Prices were 4$ gallon under George W Bush in July of 2008 Obama didn't take office until January 2009. Wasn't until fracking started to ramp up mostly under Obama caused prices to crash. Also Obama forcing car manufactures to raise their fuel mileage in 2011. When that happened it had an effect on speculation of oil prices did start to drop the following year to low $38 by the time Obama was nearing his term in 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpor...20year%202025.


The oil wars between the fracker's in the US and OPEC/Russia caused wild swings in the market eventually in late 4/2020 with the help of Covid crude price went to 0. Trump really had little to do with oil prices or gas prices that is. Most Fracking rigs were not on federal land only about 10% which Trump had opened. Later stopped by Biden.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29Q1S5

I trade micro crude contracts so I watch this stuff reality is Presidents have little to do with oil prices. Oil companies have lot to do with it what they are doing. Yes they can bend the price in the long run usually not by much fracking is what really drove the price down in the last 10-12 years. We will continue to use less oil as more electric and hybrid cars sell.
 
Old 07-18-2021, 03:00 AM
 
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So you forgot that during the Obama and his wife Micheals 8 years the price of fuel was over $4 a gallon. Many trucking companies closed their doors and it put a lot of people out of work. Yes it was high in the beginning of President Trump's term and it took time for him to get it settled down below $2 a gallon.
I'm not sure how long you've been in the US but it seems like you weren't in the US in 2008 since that's when gasoline prices were $4 a gallon and Obama wasn't in office until 2009.
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