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Old 09-27-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk View Post
The US did that in Vietnam. People keep telling you that, and you keep pretending otherwise.
Show me where I said I don't believe that?

But, tell us, what is the significance of that? Are you trying to justify what happened in vietnam to what happened last month?

In case you don't remember the biden admin has clearly stated that times are now different 20 years later, so again, tell us why you are trying to justify what happened last month, to what happened in vietnam? Thing have changed since 1975.
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Old 09-27-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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Like another poster said show us a good example of a withdrawal… and you can’t honestly say that if Trump had been in office that it would of went any better.
The fact is, we will never know, what we do know is that ole' joe f'd up, period.
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Old 09-27-2021, 04:11 PM
 
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American trapped in Kabul doesn't believe he will get out safely and wonders if Biden has an actual plan.

Biden promised to get these people out before the military was pulled.

Biden is a PoS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...reign-airlines
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Old 09-27-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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four of the alleged "translators " have been arrested for raping and assaulting an Army Soldier, at Ft Bliss. I wonder if those who stood for them are being held responsible
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Old 09-27-2021, 04:38 PM
 
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American trapped in Kabul doesn't believe he will get out safely and wonders if Biden has an actual plan.

Biden promised to get these people out before the military was pulled.

Biden is a PoS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...reign-airlines
Well, maybe he/she did not want to leave? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< COMPLETE SARCASM BTW....
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Old 09-27-2021, 04:46 PM
 
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As a side note, the Americans that were rescued, why are they not being interviewed? Would that not be a top of the line interview?
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Old 09-27-2021, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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As a side note, the Americans that were rescued, why are they not being interviewed? Would that not be a top of the line interview?
How about the four who raped and assaulted a female soldier at Ft. Bliss?
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Old 09-27-2021, 05:50 PM
 
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Like another poster said show us a good example of a withdrawal… and you can’t honestly say that if Trump had been in office that it would of went any better.
Certain things would have been bad with any kind of withdrawal.

One is that the Taliban was certainly going to take over the country quickly. That was going to happen. When Trump began negotiating with them directly, leaving the Afghan government out of the negotiations, that was merely acknowledgement of what was already known: The Afghan government was going to fall too quickly for the US to extricate itself without dealing with the Taliban. If the Afghan government had been estimated to stand at least four or five or six months while the US was withdrawing, it would not have been necessary to negotiate with the Taliban.

Second, with the understanding that the Afghan government was going to fall was also the understanding that all of their US-supplied hardware was going to be taken over by the Taliban. That's one of the reasons the Afghan government never got the most advanced equipment in the first place.

Third is that a good many Americans were going to be left behind. President Trump was talking about a May 2021 deadline. Biden had been talking about a September 2021 deadline as soon as he got into office. No matter who was president, no matter how long he delayed the troops, no matter how many deadlines he made, there would be hundreds of Americans who'd still be there after the deadline. That's because Americans are jackasses.

I've lived in Third World countries before. People in Third World countries know how much those governments suck. They know how bribes work. They know how dicey it is to get visas, get tickets, They know those kinds of things can't wait until the last minute. But Americans are jackasses.

There are two things that should have been done much better. One is that the withdrawal deadline should have been in May--the end of the Afghanistan winter--rather than the end of the Afghanistan summer in September. That would have kept the Taliban from breathing down everyone's throat en masse while the withdrawal was happening. It would have bought time and space. I suspect that's why Trump's May deadline was first established, and the estimation that the Afghan military would stand 90 days was probably based on a a May deadline.

The second thing is that the Afghan civilians who had been embedded with American forces as interpreters and guides should have been evacuated at the same time as the units they were embedded with. They were already vetted for security, their names were already known--hell, they were close comarades.

Frankly, the military should not have even asked permission. The military should have put them on planes, shipped them to Bahrain, and then begged forgiveness. The president could have made that happen.
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Old 09-27-2021, 06:04 PM
 
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How about the four who raped and assaulted a female soldier at Ft. Bliss?
Well, if they did (innocent until proven guilty, remember, that's also given to all illegals aliens), but if you did do it, why would you go on national TV to talk about it.

I guess you also believe that brian laundrie also killed (innocent until proven guilty (again)), and he should talk about it on TV.

FOLKS you CANNOT make this up what is being said in quotes.
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Old 09-27-2021, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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American trapped in Kabul doesn't believe he will get out safely and wonders if Biden has an actual plan.

Biden promised to get these people out before the military was pulled.

Biden is a PoS.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...reign-airlines
Did you actually read the article you posted, the airport is now open to foreign flights. I would like to know the details as to why these US citizens are still in Afghanistan but since it's Zero Hedge I don't expect much.
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