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Old 08-14-2021, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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They think we are all stupid.
18 months into this game, anyone who still doesn't know the difference between a liquid and a gas, who doesn't understand the concept of the term "novel", who repeats ridiculous conspiracy theories about control and microchips .... Yes, those people are all stupid.
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Old 08-15-2021, 04:13 AM
 
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Much of science has been agendized if not weaponized against societal norms.
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Old 08-15-2021, 05:24 AM
 
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Much of science has been agendized if not weaponized against societal norms.
Huh?
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Old 08-15-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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Why does science keep getting it so wrong? Because science + politics = politics
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Old 08-15-2021, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I am not even talking about the virus. I am just hoping that some people notice how poor "science" is on the virus.

There are all kinds of current information that just astounds me.

For example scientists saying that cows... yes cows are a danger to the environment and a way to stop global warming is to stop eating meat and eat the new synthetic fake meat. Yeh because that couldn't go wrong! Just lacking in all common sense.
Seeing how the industrial scale of raising cattle for slaughter is harming the environment is common sense.

You frame it as “cows” being a danger to the environment, but that’s disingenuous and an intentional distortion of the facts. It’s not so much the cows as it is the industrial scale of cattle “farming,” that has become a problem. For example, the massive amount of cow **** that pollutes waterways, the combined methane from billions of cows farting every single day (yes, this is a thing), the massive amount of fuel used to maintain industrial cattle “farming,” from the tractors that harvest their feed to the trucks that deliver beef to market all over the world, and electricity used to keep it cool so it doesn’t spoil. Then there is the continued deforestation, especially in the Amazon, to make room for cattle “farming,” which has turned the Amazon from a carbon sink to a net emitter of c02. There’s the fact that it takes 2400 gallons of water to make one pound of beef. That is A LOT of water for a pound of meat.

I’m could go on, but I think you get the idea. It’s not complicated to understand how industrial cattle farming is problematic for the environment on several levels. We can all do our part by reducing meat consumption. Meat isn’t particularly healthy and humans evolved eating it sparsely. It’s only during the last hundred years of our history that some nations have made meat a part of their daily diet. Most of the world still eats meat pretty irregularly. It’s better for health and better for the environment. Common sense, really.
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Old 08-15-2021, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Did you see them cheering at the CPAC meeting when it was announced that Biden hadn`t met his goal of 70% vaccinated by July 4th? Who is it that`s making it political? The pro-life crowd was cheering for more deaths.


https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/11/f...-vents-to-cnn/
So why then are some posters cheering when they see covid affecting Florida?
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Old 08-15-2021, 06:59 AM
 
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Once science integrated politics, it was no longer science. The average American knows what's best for themselves and by the way... the average American are the ones that defend your ability to denigrate average Americans.
Considering how fat and bad with money the average American is I'd say this isn't true
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sometimes science/scientists try to outsmart common sense.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:04 AM
 
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WRONG

Science is many things, but it's not "a body of knowledge." It a process for adding knowledge to the ENTIRE body of human knowledge. It doesn't stand alone, and thinking in those terms is dangerous.
Let's not do tit for tat on semantics here. Nobody here is likely a Wharton molecular biologist....
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:06 AM
 
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OP,

Would you prefer that scientists NOT change their minds when shown to be wrong?
Yes

Shoot from the hip, stand your ground. IT'S THE LAW
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