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Old 09-22-2021, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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So... where would each state go? Let's discuss! Post your own ideas as well. Have fun.
"If the government is formed by the authority of the people, as embodied into separate communities, a dissolution of the Constitutional Compact would replace them in the condition of separate communities, that being the Condition in which they entered into the compact; whereas if formed by the people as one community, acting as such by a numerical majority, a dissolution of the compact would reduce them to a state of nature, as so many individual persons." - James Madison, 1825


"In order to justify secession as a constitutional remedy, it must be on the principle that the Federal Government is a mere voluntary association of States, to be dissolved at pleasure by any one of the contracting parties. If this be so, the Confederacy is a rope of sand, to be penetrated and dissolved by the first adverse wave of public opinion in any of the States. In this manner our thirty-three States may resolve themselves into as many petty, jarring, and hostile republics, each one retiring from the Union without responsibility whenever any sudden excitement might impel them to such a course. By this process a Union might be entirely broken into fragments in a few weeks which cost our forefathers many years of toil, privation, and blood to establish." - James Buchanan, 1860 State of the Union


The United States cannot be broken into states. It must either stay together or be destroyed.


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Old 09-22-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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Surely there are more productive outlets for creative energy than fantasizing about violating the US Constitution.

I'm alternately amused and appalled at the frequent calls for Civil War and for breaking up the nation by conservatives. How snowflakey is someone who can't abide sharing space with someone who disagrees? How arrogant are people who don't consider Americans who disagree with them as "true" Americans?

So what's the plan once the nation splits and conservatives get their the USTA [United States Tennis Association? ]? Does anyone who dissents get deported? Jailed? Beheaded? What's the plan for more liberal-leaning spots within the USTA?

Which parts of the existing Constitution stay, and which go? (this ought to be fun)


Right? These folks call themselves "patriots", when they're nothing of the sort.


Of course you'll be able to supply direct quotes from both saying precisely that ...


LOL, exactly.


Why wish these nutcases on Nebraska? Poor Nebraskans!


What would Canada get out of that, other than a longer growing season? LOL


I don't live in inner city Philadelphia, and I assure you where I live is not conservative.


You live in Ohio, right? Interesting ... Are you one of those folks who have never stepped foot inside Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Columbus, yet claim to know everything about them?

Liberals no longer share the same beliefs of other Americans. Liberals do not believe in the rule of law, The Constitution, or free elections, which are the cornerstones of our Union.

Those notions are the only things that bind us as a nation. As liberalism has embraced authoritarian socialism and has abandoned the basic principles of western civilization, it has become impossible to co-exist with them, as they are set on destroying the foundations of America.

When one group of citizens seeks to enslave another with aggregious laws and taxes with which they do not agree, there is a compelling reason to separate. This becomes particularly more pressing when dems revoke everyone's election rights through fraud and rob them of a peaceful means of changing their government.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Kentucky, Texas, and Utah "claimed by liberals"? People in those states hate liberals. North Carolina? Outside Charlotte, the state is deep red. Also, outside of Atlanta, all of Georgia is red.
the Raleigh metro isn't Red, and is actually larger than Charlotte.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Those notions are the only things that bind us as a nation.
What is a nation? And why would those "bind" us as a nation?
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