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Old 08-18-2021, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
We are already in the middle of a civil war in this country - a civil "cold" war. It is not divided up by states, although they do play a role.
Correct.

Urban areas, epitomized by BLM/Antifa's police-free zones, are the true borders in this war.

Our cities are examples of what happens when you allow generation after generation to avoid taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Suburban and urban areas are still filled with solid conservative majorities that respect the Constitution and the traditional values that define of as a nation.
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Old 08-18-2021, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Urban life is completely unsustainable without the rural areas. The urban areas became rich only by pillaging the natural resources of the rural areas.
No, it's not. There is plenty of tillable soil in every city that is being unused for crops.
The cities are also full of mature forests. In addition, cities have many factories where things rural and urban Americans alike need are made.

Cities would not be helpless when it comes to self-survival at all.


What is necessary for survival? Food, shelter, water, clothing. Never underestimate the power of improvisation. City and country people alike would have to do a lot of improvising to stay alive, but they would do it, and each understands his own environment better than the other.
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Old 08-18-2021, 01:53 AM
 
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"In 2021, the Civil War II had just begun." (elementary school student in 2150)

Well, Civil War II came and went. The current USA split into two new countries: United States of True America (USTA), bringing back the America that once was, and Sorosfaucistan (SFS), named after the founding sponsors. The nature of each country and the quality of life there are self-explanatory.

So... where would each state go? Let's discuss! Post your own ideas as well. Have fun.

Capital of United States of True America:
shared between Pierre, SD and Tallahassee, FL

Capital of Sorosfaucistan:
shared between New York City and Los Angeles

undisputedly United States of True America
Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
West Virginia
Wyoming

undisputedly Sorosfaucistan
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Washington

United States of True America, claimed by Sorosfaucistan
Arizona
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Nevada
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
Virgin Islands US
Wisconsin

Sorosfaucistan, claimed by United States of True America
Delaware
Illinois
Puerto Rico
Vermont
Virginia

disputed lands
Colorado
Guam
Minor Outlying Islands
North Carolina
If you think Texas would get taken Sorosfauction you are definitely mistaken…

Sure the cities may vote blue, but TX is a very independent state that has plenty of ammunition and would rather die then to join the liberal pansy groups.
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Old 08-18-2021, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Crook County, Hellinois
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No, it's not. There is plenty of tillable soil in every city that is being unused for crops.
The cities are also full of mature forests. In addition, cities have many factories where things rural and urban Americans alike need are made.

Cities would not be helpless when it comes to self-survival at all.
Not anymore, for the most part. Manufacturing in cities tanked in 1970's, like the steel mill closures. It's all a service economy now. Most plants are now in rural and suburban areas, where USTA can deploy its army troops to protect them from SFS terrorists.

Industrial shipping, however, is still city-controlled, due to how ports were built before CWII. So until USTA builds its own ports, it'll have to make temporary peace treaties with SFS and pay to use theirs. Shipped goods will just be at risk of being looted, since SFS has no police to speak of, unless USTA deploys its army troops to bases next to leased ports.

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If you think Texas would get taken Sorosfauction you are definitely mistaken…

Sure the cities may vote blue, but TX is a very independent state that has plenty of ammunition and would rather die then to join the liberal pansy groups.
I said that Texas is a part of USTA. But it's claimed by SFS, because its governor acts like a RINO at times. At least he doesn't believe in the liberal "global warming" crap.

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Old 08-18-2021, 04:33 AM
 
Location: NJ
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There will be no civil war!

the media has hyped the socialists attempting to make them seem more than there really are.

no one to fight.

domestic terrorists compromised of BLM and antifa and new black panther party.

States will defy federal mandates and law and that will be as far as it goes, unless legally biden can be negated by invalidating all his EOs and legislation due to medication he is being given which work through the CNS.

Time for some democrats to stand up and stop the destruction of our nation.

Biden has so far financed Russia, global drug cartels, eliminated our energy independence, strengthened China's position globally, Endangered national security in Afghanistan and allowed in terrorist via the southern border to ensure another 911. Biden has spread pestilence/covid across the nation and exploded inflation.

where is the media and democrats and sleepy republicans. Someone better do something soon, before biden/socialists take down a nation. Biden is a token, a mouthpiece for the socialist committee, not that important. Sylvia Browne, the late, well known psychic, predicted in the the late 90s that in the new millennium, America would be run by committee not a president. That is some prediction and apparently now the case.
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Old 08-18-2021, 05:15 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Most people would hate living in either.

Kochistan or Wokitopia.

Live in the equivalent of the guilded age US
or
Live in some hyper woke thought police state.

Neither would be fun.
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Old 08-18-2021, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
No, it's not. There is plenty of tillable soil in every city that is being unused for crops.
The cities are also full of mature forests. In addition, cities have many factories where things rural and urban Americans alike need are made.

Cities would not be helpless when it comes to self-survival at all.


What is necessary for survival? Food, shelter, water, clothing. Never underestimate the power of improvisation. City and country people alike would have to do a lot of improvising to stay alive, but they would do it, and each understands his own environment better than the other.
Two things you seem to discount...
Electricity and more importantly water. In most cases without electricity you can't get the later.

Can you imagine the chaos in NYC or LA after a week without power?
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:23 AM
 
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Two things you seem to discount...
Electricity and more importantly water. In most cases without electricity you can't get the later.

Can you imagine the chaos in NYC or LA after a week without power?
Most big cities do not get their water from within their own borders. I am most familiar with the northeast and off the top of my head without doing any research I can speak with certainty that the following cities rely on outside areas for their municipal water supplies.
  • New York City NY
  • Boston MA (and many of its suburbs)
  • Manchester NH
  • Portland ME
  • Bangor ME

That list includes the biggest city of New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Maine.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by ottomobeale View Post
Most people would hate living in either.

Kochistan or Wokitopia.

Live in the equivalent of the guilded age US
or
Live in some hyper woke thought police state.

Neither would be fun.
Agree.

Unfortunately, a lot of the woke thought-police stuff is being pushed by corporations. So we have an odd situation where the Economic Right is enabling the Cultural Left.
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Old 08-18-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MillennialUrbanist View Post
"In 2021, the Civil War II had just begun." (elementary school student in 2150)

Well, Civil War II came and went. The current USA split into two new countries: United States of True America (USTA), bringing back the America that once was, and Sorosfaucistan (SFS), named after the founding sponsors. The nature of each country and the quality of life there are self-explanatory.

So... where would each state go? Let's discuss! Post your own ideas as well. Have fun.

Capital of United States of True America:
shared between Pierre, SD and Tallahassee, FL

Capital of Sorosfaucistan:
shared between New York City and Los Angeles

undisputedly United States of True America
Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
West Virginia
Wyoming

undisputedly Sorosfaucistan
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Washington

United States of True America, claimed by Sorosfaucistan
Arizona
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Nevada
New Hampshire
Texas
Utah
Virgin Islands US
Wisconsin

Sorosfaucistan, claimed by United States of True America
Delaware
Illinois
Puerto Rico
Vermont
Virginia

disputed lands
Colorado
Guam
Minor Outlying Islands
North Carolina
Well it’ll be pretty easy to tell which new country will have a higher gdp….
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