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Old 08-22-2021, 06:26 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I find myself more and more telling vaccinated people who regret getting the shots now that "I told you so"!
I find myself getting more and more disgusted with the continued insistence of the government, news media and the dime a dozen "armchair experts" passing along their latest manufactured "factoids" and speculations about said covid boogeyman, designed to keep the uninformed masses in a permanent state of panic. The better to control said masses.

I would find the continual finger pointing and ridiculous accusations flung back and forth between the "vaccinated" and "unvaccinated" utterly silly if it weren't so sad and didn't promote even more division among the populace.

It's more than high time, IMO, to get the politics, and the government and the media mouthpieces the hell out of our healthcare, let the medical professionals manage and treat covid and related issues as it takes its place among the myriads of other viruses that make their rounds among the populace.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:33 AM
 
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MOST PEOPLE, vaccinated or not, get "light cases." That is not a legitimate argument. Covid had over a 99% survival rate before there was ever any "vaccine" for all but the ancient, morbidly obese, or health compromised. Rather than concentrating on those high-risk populations, y'all did the one size fits all routine. And now we are ALL paying for it.



Then don't go. That's totally up to you. Nobody is going to force you into a hospital if you don't want to go.
Correct, it isn't a virus issue, it is a health issue. The vast majority are very obese, but nobody wants to mention that. Vaccine or no vaccine, if your high risk, you are high risk for anything. The mass media is comparing a normal person's health to some 400 pound guy in a hospital.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Well - maybe it’s because we don’t have an actual vaccine.



Vaccines provide the body’s immune response the ability to destroy the invading element.


NO - vaccine has ever just been used so “symptoms aren’t so bad “.






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These mRNA vaccines are actually gene therapy.

They don't meet the traditional requirements of older vaccines.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Interesting…..

The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-vaccinated
Thanks, China.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:37 AM
 
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Oh boy ABC news, how do I counter a company that takes about 70% of their money from big pharma. Just look at some of the most vaccinated countries in the world, they should be all open and everyone should be healthy...they aren't. If you want to look, just check Israel, Iceland, etc. And we have travel restrictions against them.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:40 AM
 
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Really? I’m reading about a lot of unvaccinated people who are dead and dying from delta in states like Alabama, where Trump was just booed for encouraging people to get vaccinated.

There was always a worry that a mutated strain could make the original vaccines less effective, and that has happened with Delta. After all, the vaccines were not engineered to fight the delta strain. Still, the VAST majority of those ending up in the hospital and those dying are the unvaccinated. Somewhere in the 90%+ range.

The hospitalization and death rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated are so vastly different, and the outcomes for the vaccinated are so vastly better that trying to claim the vaccine is ineffective is like trying to say that since some people die or are injured when shot while wearing a Kevlar vest that it’s basically no better than getting shot without one.
You are reading a lot I'm sure from the same sources that have lied to you for the last 18 months, but hey just keep trusting them.

People are dying cause they are unhealthy and many are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people will die because they are unhealthy also. But the entire thing about pandemic of unvaccinated is completely false if you look at other countries and even many states here. The problem is our genius CDC decided to stop counting most cases with vaccinated people back in May, to make the vaccine look good. Breakthrough cases were rare, until they weren't and had to try and bury the data.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Oh boy ABC news, how do I counter a company that takes about 70% of their money from big pharma. Just look at some of the most vaccinated countries in the world, they should be all open and everyone should be healthy...they aren't. If you want to look, just check Israel, Iceland, etc. And we have travel restrictions against them.
Weren't they the same company that used a video of a Kentucky shooting range as evidence of Kurdish genocide in Syria LMAO!
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Various
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Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t:
This is one of the best lines yet from the VDS sufferers.
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Old 08-23-2021, 01:13 AM
 
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Oh boy ABC news, how do I counter a company that takes about 70% of their money from big pharma. Just look at some of the most vaccinated countries in the world, they should be all open and everyone should be healthy...they aren't. If you want to look, just check Israel, Iceland, etc. And we have travel restrictions against them.

Every country you listed has data that shows the vaccinated are much less likely to get sick than the unvaccinated.

This is NO place to the contrary. None.

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Old 08-23-2021, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Various
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An excellent reply,thank you!!
Well except that most of the deaths are the unvaccinated. That pesky little point just wont go away.
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