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Old 08-21-2021, 06:58 PM
 
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Interesting…..

The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-vaccinated
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:04 PM
 
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Interesting…..

The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-vaccinated
I find myself more and more telling vaccinated people who regret getting the shots now that "I told you so"!
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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The latest research suggests that getting covid provides much better respiratory immunity than the vaccines, so the optimal approach is giving a vaccine dose, and then 30 days later, subjecting a person to live virus as the "second shot." ... say the Johnson and Johnson Jab and then go around someone with covid a month later. Of course there's no way to know if long term immunity will remain even with this approach.

This is quite a nasty virus they engineered and let slip into the wild at least in vulnerable individuals compared to our regular flu and cold bugs. It appears to provoke a much greater inflammatory response which is where most of the damage comes from. I mean it still has a low fatality rate especially in the under 40 crowd and life will go on, so it's a relatively tame lesson in what happens when you engineer viruses.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...57b_story.html

Similar to how we had the global nuclear proliferation treaties... we need a ban on experimentation with viruses that results in them being more contagious, laws made that apply globally that ban the practice, or the next bug could have a kill rate that rivals Ebola while spreading as easily as covid. That would send us back to the dark ages. Everything would collapse.
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:06 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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This vaccinated person is not worried.
The vaccinated people I know who got Covid got extremely light cases.
More blather from Bloomberg and the rest of the media.. I am not interested in how many cases there are. Covid is killing very few vaccinated people.
But it'll sure do ya in if you are not vaccinated.
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Everyone I know, knows someone who got covid after being fully vaccinated. This is happening in European countries as well. So yes the vaccinated should not be overconfident.

This is not the time to praise the vaccine and shame the unvaccinated. We should all be demanding better vaccines. It seems to me the biotech companies now just want to cash in, when they should continue research.
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Old 08-21-2021, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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This vaccinated person is not worried.
The vaccinated people I know who got Covid got extremely light cases.
More blather from Bloomberg and the rest of the media.. I am not interested in how many cases there are. Covid is killing very few vaccinated people.
But it'll sure do ya in if you are not vaccinated.
Sure it will. That’s why I’m dead right now, along with 98% of everyone else who got it.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:57 PM
 
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One of the best known outbreaks among vaccinated people occurred in the small beach town of Provincetown, Massachusetts, as thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated alike gathered on dance floors and at house parties over the Fourth of July weekend to celebrate the holiday -- and what seemed like a turning point in the pandemic. About three-fourths of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people.


That's not what the narrative says.
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:04 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/_/status/1429273...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Trump is for optional vaccines and a full return to pre Covid normal.

Biden is for forced vaccines, and lots of them and a lock downed economy as the new normal.

Hardly helpful conflating these two very different positions.

Anti vaxx will continue to be a minority, wing nut position if and until enough people get sick/die from the vaccine that that opinion changes at the grass roots level.

What unifies both anti vaxx people and vaccinated people is the desire to return to pre-Covid normal life and stop 3-5 year lock downs of the population.

As such the best and only unifying position on Covid is vaccines for those who want the vaccine and a demand life returns to normal.

Dividing America into anti vaxx/vaccinated camps is a stupid, unthinking, knee jerk response to the globalist police state
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:37 AM
 
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Interesting…..

The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...for-vaccinated

Let me try to explain what the scientists are really trying to say: We don't have answers why Delta can breakthrough the first line of defense, but we have definitive answers that the second line of defense is very effective in fighting off Covid.

The vaccine enhances the B cell and the T cell - Delta is good at evading detection by the B cell, but it is not at all effective against the T cell. So your body's T Cell will do its job and fight off the virus so you only get mildly sick. This is why vaccinated people are WAY less likely to go to the ICU. These are all backed up by data.

Bottom line, the vaccine is still very effective against the viurs. It's just not as perfect as people wanted it to be.

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Old 08-22-2021, 01:04 AM
 
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The vaccinated person is usually the same person that lived in a cave for the last year, who didn't build their immune system. They wore a mask when it wasn't necessary. Then when they got the vaccine and were told everything was fine went out and got sick.

Meanwhile on the other front, anyone who stays somewhat healthy, didn't get the vaccine, was criticized for not wearing a mask and not following measure that make no sense, are all still healthy and fine and enjoying life. But they are still being blamed for everything.

Meanwhile those that followed our idiot health officials, are still trying to blame others and justify the decisions they made that didn't help at all. Easier to blame everyone else for their weak immune system.
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