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Old 08-23-2021, 04:45 PM
 
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Sorry it bothers you to hear that you support a racist, anti choice, anti bodily autonomy, pro big pharmaceutical company, anti small business owner policy.
LOL. In other words, you can't refute the fact that when everyone is treated exactly the same it's not racism, so you come up with this unrelated drivel that is apropos to absolutely nothing. Funny stuff, but totally irrelevant.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:36 PM
 
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So you don't care about others? Especially others that you might be responsible for harming if you pass the virus to them?
Tell me how I am any threat to you at all if I do not have covid and am not wearing a mask?

What percentage of people do you think have active covid when you are in public? Your (folks like you) actions speak louder than words--you obviously believe that every single person you meet has covid, especially if they are not muzzled. That is simply delusional thinking. You may as well also assume that everyone around you has leprosy. Or everyone has a submachine gun under their coat and will start shooting at the drop of a hat. Just stay home. Never come out. You'll be safe. Unless lightning strikes your home. Perhaps you'd better install a faraday cage.
You ask the right question!


I certainly would like someone to explain how a covid free person can transmit the covid virus, and how a government mandate forcing a covid free person to get vaccinated [NYC's new mandate . . . no vax . . . no service ..] advances the public health, especially when the fully vaccinated are transmitting the virus, not covid free individuals?

JWK
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Old 08-24-2021, 03:14 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You ask the right question!


I certainly would like someone to explain how a covid free person can transmit the covid virus, and how a government mandate forcing a covid free person to get vaccinated [NYC's new mandate . . . no vax . . . no service ..] advances the public health, especially when the fully vaccinated are transmitting the virus, not covid free individuals?

JWK

here here John you so right and amen you have common sense . Something the leftys are lacking .
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:22 AM
 
Location: NY
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LOL. In other words, you can't refute the fact that when everyone is treated exactly the same it's not racism, so you come up with this unrelated drivel that is apropos to absolutely nothing. Funny stuff, but totally irrelevant.
Actually, what you are describing is equality of access. That is a quaint notion from the past. Our ruling class has told us that EQUITY is the new standard by which to judge racism. If the policy results in a disproportionate number of black and brown people excluded from public spaces, that is racism. Sorry, but the rules have changed and the mandates are racist according to the new rules. Notice 'equality' (of access) has been replaced with 'equity' (of outcome) nearly everywhere.

I personally believe the mandates are racist simply because they violate bodily autonomy in a way that is reminiscent of slavery. But I also extend bodily autonomy to all races, because it is a basic human right.
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Old 08-24-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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You ask the right question!


I certainly would like someone to explain how a covid free person can transmit the covid virus, and how a government mandate forcing a covid free person to get vaccinated [NYC's new mandate . . . no vax . . . no service ..] advances the public health, especially when the fully vaccinated are transmitting the virus, not covid free individuals?

JWK
here here John you so right and amen you have common sense . Something the leftys are lacking .
My generation was not brainwashed in schools. We were actually taught to think for ourselves, and always question government. Times have changed since then, and today, our government schools have become institutions of indoctrination and not education.

JWK
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Old 08-24-2021, 12:08 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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My generation was not brainwashed in schools. We were actually taught to think for ourselves, and always question government. Times have changed since then, and today, our government schools have become institutions of indoctrination and not education.

JWK
Again you are speking truth .
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Old 08-24-2021, 01:24 PM
 
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Default Natural immunity AND the Covid vaccine may be the proper way to go

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Again you are speking truth .
Getting back to the subject of Covid, a CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated


JUL 30 2021
  • About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.
  • The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.


So, 74% of the fully vaccinated getting covid seems to indicate the “vaccine” is not very effective. Not only that, but it seems that mother nature has a way of providing better protection to those who do get infected!

See Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%

Apr 12, 2021

”People who had COVID-19 had an 84% lower risk of becoming reinfected and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection during 7 months of follow-up, according to findings from a large, multicenter study published late last week in The Lancet.”

The article goes on to point out "the findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.”

From the mountain of material I have read over the past two years, I am beginning to think the vaccine is probably a useful tool for those at high risk of seriously complications should they get covid, and that allowing nature to take its course with those at low risk of serious complications from covid, i.e., letting their body create a natural immunity to covid, may very well be the proper course of action, at least, the evidence seems to suggest this.

One thing for certain, NYC's one size fits all No Vax, No Service is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.

JWK

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Old 08-24-2021, 06:14 PM
 
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Default more news on natural immunity from covid

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Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

July 13, 2021

Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.


"Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination."

Also see: Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then Vaccine Immunity

8/5/2021

“Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, during an appearance on The Vince Coglianese Show, said individuals formerly infected with COVID-19 are seven times more likely then vaccinated people to fight off the virus.”

“It appears that natural immunity is better against the Delta variant. When you get infected with COVID, your body’s immune system develops antibodies to the entire surface of the virus,” Makary said. “Not just the slight protein that the vaccines gives you, but the entire surface. And so you get a more diverse antibody portfolio in your system.”


JWK
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Old 08-24-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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NYC mandates no vax, no service, Oks covid spreaders to enjoy public accommodations
Again, assuming anyone not vaccinated is infected with covid.

What kind of an IQ thinks that way? Single digits? Negative numbers?



Have you had your shingles vaccine? I hope so. Otherwise stay away from others, oh Infected One.
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Old 08-24-2021, 07:24 PM
 
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Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

July 13, 2021

Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.


"Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination."

Also see: Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then Vaccine Immunity

8/5/2021

“Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, during an appearance on The Vince Coglianese Show, said individuals formerly infected with COVID-19 are seven times more likely then vaccinated people to fight off the virus.”

“It appears that natural immunity is better against the Delta variant. When you get infected with COVID, your body’s immune system develops antibodies to the entire surface of the virus,” Makary said. “Not just the slight protein that the vaccines gives you, but the entire surface. And so you get a more diverse antibody portfolio in your system.”


JWK

Thanks for sharing. This is normally how it works but people assumed the vaccine was superior.
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