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Old 08-23-2021, 09:04 AM
 
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so you dont believe in the individual?
So you don't care about others? Especially others that you might be responsible for harming if you pass the virus to them?

Will you please explain how a covid free person can transmit the covid virus, and how a government mandate forcing a covid free person to get vaccinated advances the public health, especially when the fully vaccinated are transmitting the virus, not covid free individuals?

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Old 08-23-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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Now that the FDA has approved the vaccine mandates will be coming to many areas and places of business. NYC is the leading edge, but will be by no means the only place that imposes them going forward.

The antivaxxers will soon be on the outside looking in in many places.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:22 AM
 
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Now that the FDA has approved the vaccine mandates will be coming to many areas and places of business. NYC is the leading edge, but will be by no means the only place that imposes them going forward.

The antivaxxers will soon be on the outside looking in in many places.
In NYC that will result in the disappearance of poor, vulnerable, black and brown bodies from public spaces. There are no medical exemptions for the passport.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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In NYC that will result in the disappearance of poor, vulnerable, black and brown bodies from public spaces. There are no medical exemptions for the passport.
Yes. If they are choosing not to vaccinate then that will be what will happen. Again, it's their choice.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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This is what mass psychosis has done to leftists’ diseased minds. Without an expiration date these vaccine passports are worthless. How stupid can people get. There are fake cards everywhere.
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Old 08-23-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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In NYC that will result in the disappearance of poor, vulnerable, black and brown bodies from public spaces. There are no medical exemptions for the passport.
Homeless?
Make you wonder how long it will be before we see cop squads rounding people up for quarantine.
We are going to become Australia.
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Old 08-23-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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This isn't about giving people the feels. It's about whether they are safer. Since a roomful of vaccinated people--some of whom might be symptomatic---can spread the virus, she isn't necessarily safer. It isn't worth disenfranchising a large portion of the city, including POC and those with medical contraindications to the vaccine, to assuage anxiety. They also need to show ID along with the passports, and the NYC ID requirements are not attainable by many undocumented immigrants because they require 4 points of documents.


Many business owners in NYC say the mandates will destroy them. Our business is part of a large coalition of NY metro fitness professionals who are against the passports. I'm not surprised the news media chose to focus on a business in favor of this. Throughout this pandemic, the news media has advocated for lockdowns and other measures that favor the professional, white elites and harm small businesses, the vulnerable and disenfranchised.
Let us consider a common sense government policy with respect to the covid outbreak, as opposed to a hysterical, illogical and tyrannical approach which is now taking place, especially in a few states.

  • The most important responsibility of our governments’, state and federal, is to present accurate information, which may then be used by the general public to deal with the threat on their own terms. Keep in mind, there are exceptions when extreme circumstances may present themselves that may require government’s temporary and unusual policies . . . but such policies ought never impinge upon the inalienable rights of Citizens of the United States.
  • It has been established that the survival rate from Covid is about 99.9 %
  • It has been established that those most vulnerable to severe illness and death from the virus are the elderly and those with pre-existing medical conditions.
  • It has been established that children are less likely to get the virus, and less likely to have symptoms if they do, in addition to not being a significant transmitter of the virus
  • It has been established that those who are vaccinated stand a better chance of avoiding a life threatening bout with the virus or death.
  • It has been established that those fully vaccinated can, and are, transmitting the virus.
  • It is common sense that covid free individuals are not transmitting the virus.
  • It has been established that masks, which are currently being used by the general public, have little effect in protecting the wearer, and do more to reduce the distance a viral load can be transmitted by a wearer to others in the immediate vicinity. Masks give a false sense of security.
  • It has been established that various treatments are now available, which if used during the first 7-10 days of being infected with the virus, are highly effective in avoiding serious illness from the virus.

Now, wouldn’t it be great if our governments’, state and federal, disseminated accurate information so the general public can deal with the outbreak in their own chosen ways, and refrained from using the covid outbreak to impose government mandated Draconian measures which trample upon the inalienable rights of citizens of the United States, and especially those who are covid free?

JWK
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes. If they are choosing not to vaccinate then that will be what will happen. Again, it's their choice.
It is de facto segregation. It is also NOT a choice for someone with a medical contraindication to get vaccinated. But I guess that doesn't matter to the communists. Don't listen to your doctor, but to the Party.

I'm glad the inner racism of the left is finally coming out in the open. They've hidden it well for a long time. Same with their inner authoritarian.
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Old 08-23-2021, 12:59 PM
 
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It is de facto segregation. It is also NOT a choice for someone with a medical contraindication to get vaccinated. But I guess that doesn't matter to the communists. Don't listen to your doctor, but to the Party.

I'm glad the inner racism of the left is finally coming out in the open. They've hidden it well for a long time. Same with their inner authoritarian.
You are absolutely correct! We are beginning to see the ideology embraced by the Democrat Party Leadership . . . one size fits all, regardless of the consequences ___ an iron fisted ideology practiced in such places as Cuba, China, Venezuela, etc.

JWK
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Old 08-23-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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It is de facto segregation. It is also NOT a choice for someone with a medical contraindication to get vaccinated. But I guess that doesn't matter to the communists. Don't listen to your doctor, but to the Party.

I'm glad the inner racism of the left is finally coming out in the open. They've hidden it well for a long time. Same with their inner authoritarian.
Oh my goodness. Inner racism because blacks and Latinos are among the unvaxxed. Too funny. Lots of stupid white people aren't getting vaccinated either. What pearl clutching will you resort to for them?

The unvaxxed are the problem, whether white, black or purple. YOU are the only one making this about race.
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