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I honestly don't find it that surprising. I don't think most people realize the number is typically 45% and has been that way for quite some time. Throw in a bunch of lockdowns (red and blue states), businesses having to lay people off, and the first $10,200 of unemployment non-taxable, it actually makes sense.
Lots of people got slammed last year. As the economy gets back on track, the number should go back to where it traditionally is (45%). And clearly it has been sustainable.
With that said, I don't think anyone in a position that isn't paying any taxes is bragging about having a great lifestyle. I wouldn't trade places with them for the world.
But you do you and whine if you like.
I’d be careful about putting all immigrants in the lazy bucket. Many are hard workers. I think it’s actually many American citizens that the democrats have convinced should be given free stuff and make the same as educated and skilled people that always have their hand out to the taxpayers. I’m not defending illegal immigrants in the least. They should follow our laws. I’m just saying many are hard workers.
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I agree about essential employees....
But you do know that most of the people that you are describing DO pay taxes.... right?
Especially as they move up the ladder as the years go by.
Most people don't stay on the same rung their entire lives.
Do clerks at Walmart, even those who are full time, and are skilled and have been there for 15 years, pay federal income taxes, or do they get a refund at the end of the year?
That's what this is about, I believe. Those who pay federal income taxes.
It used to be, there wasn't this chasm between the highest and lowest paid workers. That a man (or woman, less so) could graduate high school, begin working for a company and work his way up from mailroom or stockroom or assembly floor, and if he was reliable and worked hard, by the time he was in his 40's he was in management and living quite comfortably.
That system isn't working for us anymore. And that is NOT socialism. That's capitalism at its finest.
What you're seeing now, is if you have a high school diploma and start work at the bottom, that's where you'll stay and oh by the way you'll need to work more than one job because it's likely not going to be a full time job with benefits.
It IS working perfectly. It is government that is broken. And NO, it is not sustainable.
Are 61% not making enough money to pay federal income taxes? If so, then why shouldnt the people not paying enough wages be taxed for what would normally be collected from the 61%?
They make enough to pay a proportional amount of taxes, but are being coddled.
It used to be, there wasn't this chasm between the highest and lowest paid workers. That a man (or woman, less so) could graduate high school, begin working for a company and work his way up from mailroom or stockroom or assembly floor, and if he was reliable and worked hard, by the time he was in his 40's he was in management and living quite comfortably.
That system isn't working for us anymore. And that is NOT socialism. That's capitalism at its finest.
What you're seeing now, is if you have a high school diploma and start work at the bottom, that's where you'll stay and oh by the way you'll need to work more than one job because it's likely not going to be a full time job with benefits.
Nonsense.
It's still very possible to work your way up from entry level positions.
I see it happen at many of my customers.
Problem is too many younger people don't have the patience and don't want to put in the time and dedication that it takes to make it happen.
They want everything NOW.
Gaining experience and working your way up in trades is like going to school.
Only you just get paid less while you're learning instead of taking out thousands in student loans.
Do clerks at Walmart, even those who are full time, and are skilled and have been there for 15 years, pay federal income taxes, or do they get a refund at the end of the year?
That's what this is about, I believe. Those who pay federal income taxes.
Do you really have no clue how many different types of jobs, skill sets and wage scales comprise "essential employees"?
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