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Old 10-10-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ukrkoz View Post
And that proves what?
Vaccination does not work.
Actual science and statistics prove your bizarre proclamation that "vaccination does not work" to be wrong. Period. I won't even ask you to provide a link, because there is none. Vaccinations do, in fact, work as advertised. Of course, if your bench mark is that vaccines are supposed to be 100% effective, then you are simply uninformed and don't understand how vaccines work. Either way, you're wrong.
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Old 10-11-2021, 03:14 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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probably because the idiots think..have been mislead....that they are vaccinated and can't catch it

...or the same amount of people are still catching covid....just more people are vaccinated now

anyhow.....this whole thing has turned into the world's largest s*** show

The latest numbers from the UK reveal the covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-age-group-30/

(the little blue words are links)
The death rate is fairly low, as the vaccine reduces the symptoms rather than prevents the virus, although it should be noted there is a difference between the Alpha and Delta variants.

The death rate in the UK is now similar to the flu among those vaccinated.

The main vaccine given in the UK was the Oxford AstraZeneca, which is not a mRNA vaccine, and is therefore very different to the US Pfizer and Moderna. vaccines.
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Old 10-11-2021, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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The main thing dragging this pandemic on forever does is gives people an excuse to work less while still getting paid...whether it's from extended UE or simply getting to take a few days of covid pay for every vaccine shot and then 2 weeks of covid pay after contracting covid vaccinated... It lets the parasites be parasites for longer...and the middle even gets a piece of the pie this time not just the top and bottom. Government employees have the biggest incentive to drag this out...they stand to gain the most from remote work, more time off, etc.

On the plus side the labor shortages mean better pay, however due to fiscal mismanagement combined with supply chain issues, prices go up faster than wages.

We are a species, like all animals, wired to want to get maximum outputs with minimal inputs. It's wired into all animal DNA...all the rationalizations we use are just excuses to justify basic animal urges...and where I work we know that everyone uses sick time as vacation and we have to take them at their word...at some point you just join in and look at this extra time off as a work benefit.
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Old 10-11-2021, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Desert southwest US
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Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
probably because the idiots think..have been mislead....that they are vaccinated and can't catch it

...or the same amount of people are still catching covid....just more people are vaccinated now

anyhow.....this whole thing has turned into the world's largest s*** show

The latest numbers from the UK reveal the covid infection rates among the vaccinated now exceed the unvaxxed in every age group over 30.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-age-group-30/

(the little blue words are links)


Just a note to clarify thie source is Gateway Pundit.

Very far right - that’s fine.

Very low factual reporting
It uses questionable sources
And promotes false propaganda

Cross check mediabiasfactcheck with other cites sites. Decide for yourself. Any one story from any one site cold be accurate or not.

Just adding this footnote for people to notice if they want to. Maybe we should start taking responsibility for what we share - not singling out this one article, just saying I might be worth taking a moment to think and check.

You can’t exist these days without knowing full well there is a sea of dangerous propaganda out there - from myriad spectrums. No one can pretend they don’t know this. But everyone take 10 minutes and learn how to reasonable evaluate what they’re reading/sharing. It’s not difficult.
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Old 10-11-2021, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by paperwing View Post
Just a note to clarify thie source is Gateway Pundit.

Very far right - that’s fine.

Very low factual reporting
It uses questionable sources
And promotes false propaganda

Cross check mediabiasfactcheck with other cites sites. Decide for yourself. Any one story from any one site cold be accurate or not.

Just adding this footnote for people to notice if they want to. Maybe we should start taking responsibility for what we share - not singling out this one article, just saying I might be worth taking a moment to think and check.

You can’t exist these days without knowing full well there is a sea of dangerous propaganda out there - from myriad spectrums. No one can pretend they don’t know this. But everyone take 10 minutes and learn how to reasonable evaluate what they’re reading/sharing. It’s not difficult.
Your post IS propaganda.

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Old 10-11-2021, 04:25 AM
 
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Its possible ... but but its the unvaccinated that are dying while the vaccinated barely know they are sick.
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Old 10-11-2021, 04:28 AM
 
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Close to 80 percent of people over 12 in the UK are vaccinated. Of course they will make up the majority of people who catch COVID.

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Old 10-11-2021, 05:38 AM
 
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Close to 80 percent of people over 12 in the UK are vaccinated. Of course they will make up the majority of people who catch COVID.


For the side that requires data on EVERYTHING, there is some important data missing from this twisted bit of logic you guy always throw out. What are the total number of cases now vs when no one was vaccinated. yeah, if 100% of the population is vaccinated then 100% of the covid cases will be among the vaccinated. Duh. But is the number of cases 3 or 30,000? THAT says something for effectiveness.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:05 AM
 
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For the side that requires data on EVERYTHING, there is some important data missing from this twisted bit of logic you guy always throw out. What are the total number of cases now vs when no one was vaccinated. yeah, if 100% of the population is vaccinated then 100% of the covid cases will be among the vaccinated. Duh. But is the number of cases 3 or 30,000? THAT says something for effectiveness.
Accusing the other side of using data to make decisions. How awful. Much better to use anecdotes and conspiracy theories.

There is overwhelming data that the vaccines dramatically reduce hospitalization and deaths.

Of course, if the antivaxxers could do math and basic analysis they wouldn’t be antivaxxers.

The claim that vaccination causes more cases is an old one. It was made over 100 over years ago about smallpox vaccination. Over 100 years and the antivaxxers are still spouting the same idiocy.
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Old 10-11-2021, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The main thing dragging this pandemic on forever does is gives people an excuse to work less while still getting paid...whether it's from extended UE or simply getting to take a few days of covid pay for every vaccine shot and then 2 weeks of covid pay after contracting covid vaccinated... It lets the parasites be parasites for longer...and the middle even gets a piece of the pie this time not just the top and bottom. Government employees have the biggest incentive to drag this out...they stand to gain the most from remote work, more time off, etc.

On the plus side the labor shortages mean better pay, however due to fiscal mismanagement combined with supply chain issues, prices go up faster than wages.

We are a species, like all animals, wired to want to get maximum outputs with minimal inputs. It's wired into all animal DNA...all the rationalizations we use are just excuses to justify basic animal urges...and where I work we know that everyone uses sick time as vacation and we have to take them at their word...at some point you just join in and look at this extra time off as a work benefit.
Extended UE ended for everyone Sept 1, many states ended them back in July, you don't need a few days off for a vaccine shot unless there is a severe reaction. Many reasons for worker shortages, lack of child care, compromised individuals and mostly low wages although they have been elevated.

Remember the claims of a meltdown from raising minimum wages, looks like that wasn't the issue.
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