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Old 10-11-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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So you think that all these counties in the world, including the UK, that are advocating vaccination are deliberately manipulating the data so that they can kill or injure as many of their citizens as possible.

This is why having any reasoned debate with antivaxxers is impossible.
It's very interesting that many countries in Africa qualify for free vaccines but have not made any moves to procure them. In tern, they're being scolded:

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Public health experts have called on such countries to follow scientific evidence and give their citizens the option to choose whether they want to be vaccinated. Tanzania and Madagascar have been clear about not wanting to participate in the COVAX initiative, Mihigo said, while Burundi and Eritrea have indicated that they are still going through the documentation.
https://www.devex.com/news/the-count...-vaccine-99243

These vaccinations are being driven by global orgs like the WHO, centered in Western countries.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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It's very interesting that many countries in Africa qualify for free vaccines but have not made any moves to procure them. In tern, they're being scolded:



https://www.devex.com/news/the-count...-vaccine-99243

These vaccinations are being driven by global orgs like the WHO, centered in Western countries.
"Last month, Tanzanian Health Minister Dorothy Gwajima held a press conference demonstrating how to make a smoothie with ginger, onions, lemon, and pepper, which she said could help to prevent COVID-19 infections. She did not provide any evidence for her claim but went on to state that the country had no plans to receive vaccines for the pandemic and should instead rely on hygiene measures, herbal steaming, exercise, and “natural remedies.”"

She did not provide any evidence, so at least she's a good antivaxxer.

Enjoy your smoothie and herbal steaming.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:08 AM
 
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"Last month, Tanzanian Health Minister Dorothy Gwajima held a press conference demonstrating how to make a smoothie with ginger, onions, lemon, and pepper, which she said could help to prevent COVID-19 infections. She did not provide any evidence for her claim but went on to state that the country had no plans to receive vaccines for the pandemic and should instead rely on hygiene measures, herbal steaming, exercise, and “natural remedies.”"

She did not provide any evidence, so at least she's a good antivaxxer.

Enjoy your smoothie and herbal steaming.
Enjoy your vaccine and boosters.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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The vaxx weakens natural antibodies after a short time and the immune system goes haywire attacking what it thinks are invading cells. So the vaxxed get sick more easily and get Covid again while the unvaxxed remain healthy.
Methinks you don’t have evidence and are just making this up, but feel free to cite your sources if you think you can back this up...
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Being vaccinated against smallpox or polio has nothing to do with public health?

Fascinating.

It is Fascinating.

talk about trying to spin the topic, this is clearly about covid not smallpox or polio back from when vaccines worked.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:24 AM
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Being vaccinated against smallpox or polio has nothing to do with public health?

Fascinating.
It's pretty evident that Kracer was talking about vaccinated vs unvaccinated in regards to Covid as he said as much and that is what this thread is about.

Your off the cuff comment made to get a few more likes failed as most people can clearly see what he was referring to. I think some people use these forums for social contact as they have no one else and that's sad.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:30 AM
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So you think that all these counties in the world, including the UK, that are advocating vaccination are deliberately manipulating the data so that they can kill or injure as many of their citizens as possible.

This is why having any reasoned debate with antivaxxers is impossible.
I don't see anywhere where this person said he was against the vaccine or wasn't vaccinated. I'm vaxxed but think it's everyone's own decision on whether to get vaccinated or not. Just because a person decides not to get this vaccine does not mean one is an anti-vaxxer. They would have gotten shots as kids - probably have received a flu or tetanus shot as a adult ect...I hate that pro vaxxers stereotype everyone and 99% of the time are wrong.
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:41 AM
 
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THAT'S NOT HOW THEY WERE SOLD TO THE PUBLIC.

Remember the phrase "herd immunity"??

Funny how you never hear that anymore huh?
How dare people not know a year in advance how a new virus would behave!
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Old 10-11-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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The vaxx weakens natural antibodies after a short time and the immune system goes haywire attacking what it thinks are invading cells. So the vaxxed get sick more easily and get Covid again while the unvaxxed remain healthy.
How can we even have debate on this, when people insist on inventing their own reality?
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:18 PM
 
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I don't see anywhere where this person said he was against the vaccine or wasn't vaccinated. I'm vaxxed but think it's everyone's own decision on whether to get vaccinated or not. Just because a person decides not to get this vaccine does not mean one is an anti-vaxxer. They would have gotten shots as kids - probably have received a flu or tetanus shot as a adult ect...I hate that pro vaxxers stereotype everyone and 99% of the time are wrong.

I think many those of on the Left disagree with this. Just like if you disagree with them on anything to do with race makes you "racist" they have such shallow minds that cant think for themselves and they have to attack attack attack any opinion different than their own.
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