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Old 11-15-2021, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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I don't think most on the right oppose the topic of CRT, IF (and that's a big IF), it can be taught in a way that does not denigrate any other sub groups in the process. This is important to understand. We are not opposed to CRT, but we are concerned on the say CRT is being administered.


I don't have kids but if I did, I would not want them to feel guilty or alienated for the color of their skin. Also, many of us are against the radical indoctrination attempts to teach CRT.


CRT should be a class in K-12. It's just like reading, writing and arithmetic. Teach the subject matter and get on with your day. But zero marginalizing allowed.


I do think there is room for negotiation on this topic. But the leftists need to give a lot of ground before those on the right are comfortable. Left unchecked, we see right thru the leftists goals. CRT is a weapon that divides people and we have enough of that going on right now without a massive serving of CRT. Pass. No thanks.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:37 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I don't think most on the right oppose the topic of CRT, IF (and that's a big IF), it can be taught in a way that does not denigrate any other sub groups in the process. This is important to understand. We are not opposed to CRT, but we are concerned on the say CRT is being administered.


I don't have kids but if I did, I would not want them to feel guilty or alienated for the color of their skin. Also, many of us are against the radical indoctrination attempts to teach CRT.


CRT should be a class in K-12. It's just like reading, writing and arithmetic. Teach the subject matter and get on with your day. But zero marginalizing allowed.


I do think there is room for negotiation on this topic. But the leftists need to give a lot of ground before those on the right are comfortable. Left unchecked, we see right thru the leftists goals. CRT is a weapon that divides people and we have enough of that going on right now without a massive serving of CRT. Pass. No thanks.
CRT is crap.

The only valid use for CRT would be using it as an example of what NOT to teach to people.

We don't need to teach people that one group is automatically an oppressor, and another group is automatically a victim simply based on skin color.

No sir, file that crap in the round file.
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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CRT is crap.

The only valid use for CRT would be using it as an example of what NOT to teach to people.

We don't need to teach people that one group is automatically an oppressor, and another group is automatically a victim simply based on skin color.

No sir, file that crap in the round file.
Are you denying that there is racism in America?

Does everyone studying CRT automatically assume "white people are bad", or is that a small, noisy, subset of people studying CRT?
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Old 11-15-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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CRT should have remained in the legal colleges where it belonged.
It literally never left, except in the imaginations of fascists.
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Old 11-15-2021, 11:00 AM
 
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Are you denying that there is racism in America?

Does everyone studying CRT automatically assume "white people are bad", or is that a small, noisy, subset of people studying CRT?
Nobody believes all white people are bad, that's the dumbed-down strawman fascists rail against. Systemic racism is bad.
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Old 11-15-2021, 11:22 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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We need to get used to the fact that no matter what social policies are enacted by our government, some people will end up being failures in life. Not everybody is going to "make it."

Homeless people, drug addicts, people who spend much of their lives in prison will always be among us. That is simply the human condition.
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Old 11-15-2021, 11:31 AM
 
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We need to get used to the fact that no matter what social policies are enacted by our government, some people will end up being failures in life. Not everybody is going to "make it."

Homeless people, drug addicts, people who spend much of their lives in prison will always be among us. That is simply the human condition.
It's a condition created deliberately by capital. There are more housing units than people in America, many of the people in prison are there for non-violent offenses, drug addicts are often addicted to drugs forced onto them by the pharma industry... it's absurd to claim that this is just the way things are and there's no way to avoid it. That's capitalist propaganda serving the billionaire pedophile elite.


Edit: The opiate trade is experiencing shortages now that the CIA had to pull out of Afghanistan, lol. Individual Responsibility!
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Old 11-15-2021, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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CRT should have remained in the legal colleges where it belonged.
Explain why it "belongs" in colleges and/or law schools.
It belongs in the ash bin of toxic ideologies.
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Old 11-15-2021, 12:26 PM
 
Location: NC
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1) The state doesn't check our actual curriculum.

2) The state curriculum is poorly followed in most humanities classes and someone can hit curriculum in a different varieties including the woke way.

3) You choose to deny reality.
You stated that the trainings to teachers and lessons to students are racist. Either that is true, and you can show us the trainings and teachings (since you attended them and go the handouts), you can admit that you are speaking anecdotally, and there is no official curriculum to teach students that all whites are racists (as you stated), or you can flat-out admit you lied.

I'm guessing it is the second one. That it happens (I don't doubt that), and you either intentionally or unintentionally tried to make it look official, and then doubled down by swearing on your sweet grandmothers grave about it.

If it's the second one, then admit there is no 'official' curriculum that says all teachers in MA (or wherever you are) have to teach that all whites are bad, racist and all the other stuff you said.

Either back up your claim, admit you were incorrect, or lose credibility.
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Old 11-15-2021, 03:18 PM
 
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Explain why it "belongs" in colleges and/or law schools.
It belongs in the ash bin of toxic ideologies.
You want to prevent universities from studying the root causes of one of the biggest social issues of our time, simply because you don't like it? Why do you get to define what is or isn't toxic?
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