The Democrats need to drop the climate change issue. (voters, rates, working)

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

So we shouldn't do anything even though we know greenhouse gases are increasing warming in the atmosphere, just let the it roll.

If you don't know a precise remedy, quite likely yes. When you see a problem (even if it's manmade) you don't panic. A swimmer in trouble is not helped by panicking.

Originally Posted by Goodnight

If you had stage 1 cancer would you give up treatment.

Actually yes, for some forms, such as certain prostate cancers. And for different reason brain and pancreatic tumors.

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Remediation will come at a cost but we can see the extensive damage being done by climate change, that will only get worse if you believe in the predictions by NASA and the other scientific organizations. Besides moving away from fossil fuels for energy independence makes a lot of sense.

Again panic is not the answer. Nor is jumping to conclusions about the cause of climate change, if it be climate change and not variability of weather.

[paracord]

Buy a Tesla and shut your mouth! Don't ask questions!

The Democrats are all smart people and they know what's best for us and they know how to save the planet. We just need to give them more tax money and before you know it, they'll announce that the "Existential Climate Crisis" is over!

You probably think the "Earth is Flat" still.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Freak80

The Democrats need to drop the climate change issue for the following reasons:

1) We simply do not have economical alternatives to fossil fuels. Nuclear power is expensive, unpopular, and almost impossible to build because of NIMBYism. Wind and solar power are severely limited for obvious reasons: the sun doesn’t always shine and the wind doesn’t always blow. Anyone who thinks we can run everything on wind and solar should look at Germany. They have some of the highest electricity rates in Europe, and they are building new coal power plants because of the unreliability of wind and sunshine. No matter how cheap wind turbines and solar panels get, they will always be expensive to use because of the need for backup power plants and/or massive battery farms.

2) Global warming skeptics aren’t going to change their beliefs. That’s because humans don’t change their beliefs. That’s especially true when humans have a psychological, economical, or political investment in maintaining those beliefs. You simply can’t expect cattle ranchers and people who work in the fossil fuel industry to believe that AGW is real. Since it’s not possible to solve the global warming problem anyway, why lose votes by promising to solve it?

3) Due to our utterly corrupt political system, any policies meant to address global warming will hurt the poor and working classes the most. The rich write the rules. You can bet that taxes on fuel for private jets will be minimal or non-existent. The cost of meat, gasoline, electricity, and heating fuel will skyrocket, hurting low and middle income people the most.

Democrats need to drop the climate change issue, or they will continue to hemorrhage working class voters to the Republicans. It’s a losing issue.

I would argue that your point 3 isnt a function of reality so much as a function of the way the modern democrat party operates. Democrats have become mercantilist in thier political approach. For every victory, they first seek who to punish. for every advancement, they first seek who to take from.

Its a dangerous game. I hope they dont figure it out. The fact is Democrats on EVERY ISSUE find someone "at fault" and seek to hurt/punish before they seek to remedy the wrong and at the current pace, they will hurt almost everyone.

What democrats better fear is the moment when those on the Republican side, figure this out and start to talk about it

[jbgusa]

Now we're at an insane extreme; New Yorkers could sue Big Oil and other polluters for climate ‘negligence’ under Myrie bill(link). This does real violence, not only to common sense, but to the constitutional doctrine underpinning an individualized stake for standing to sue.