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Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Yup, the facts surrounding this entire incident are as clear as mud.
Yes, and it doesn't help when people post things that random people on the internet are trying to pass off as truth.
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
You are the person I saw posting about someone else claiming he flashed his gun on the street. I cannot comment on it, but you can?
What are you talking about? seriously? It does appear that he did not draw his gun until after she'd aimed her gun at him. Whatever you have going on in your mind is news to me and either you have me confused with someone else or you're putting words in my mouth about him "flashing his gun on the street".
Yes, and it doesn't help when people post things that random people on the internet are trying to pass off as truth.
What are you talking about? seriously? It does appear that he did not draw his gun until after she'd aimed her gun at him. Whatever you have going on in your mind is news to me and either you have me confused with someone else or you're putting words in my mouth about him "flashing his gun on the street".
How do you know he didn't point a gun at her to get her to stop? If you can speculate , so can I..
How do you know he didn't point a gun at her to get her to stop? If you can speculate , so can I..
Because he’d be in jail. If any of the accusations and assumptions you’ve made/created were anything close to reality, he’d have been arrested on the spot.
Because he’d be in jail. If any of the accusations and assumptions you’ve made/created were anything close to reality, he’d have been arrested on the spot.
Not necessarily. They could be building a case against him now and bring it to a grand jury . You do know what a grand jury is? The people on a grand jury listen to the case to see if it has probable cause to bring it to trial depending on what evidence they can find. Sometimes it takes a long time and sometimes a witness comes forward with more information . Sometimes it takes months and sometimes years to build a case.
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by Diana Holbrook
No. Not with those facts. Her right to self defense depends on what they were doing in those last moments.
Agree on all counts there.
On the bolded. That is this issue I would like to see more thoroughly explored before declaring him definitively justified in shooting her. If I were on the jury, I'd want a clear picture of what that whole scene was like, who was where and what were they doing and saying.
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The biker and friends would not have had to do much, to be perceived as a grave threat to her on her own property, if they came at her, angry about the prior incident. The burden of proof in that case is far higher for him than for her, IMHO.
They were not "ON her own property", they were on a public street. On the street and on the phone with 911 is not a grave threat to anyone.
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