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Old 03-09-2022, 09:38 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Given the number of possible variations related to this story, it would make far more sense for you to link to your specific source otherwise one would not know with certainty that any searched source actually matches yours. For example, @mathguy posted a link to a recap that never states what you claim, so we are left to assume that's not what you're referring to.
Impossible. Nobody has invented a link to the mind of Taratova yet.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Biker kicks car.. the two guys who were witnesses were with him. The woman is dead and there is one side to the story. Biker and two others chase her up and down the streets .She called the police . He went off with road rage. He went to her home with the two others. Her mother and daughter were in the house. She came out of the house to protect herself and her family holding a gun . Her last words to the biker were leave me alone, and he pumped 5 shots into her instead of walking away.
That's being the aggressor.

If she really wanted to protect herself and family from an assailant, then she should have just called police, and waited for them to arrive from the safety of the inside of her house.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:44 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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That's being the aggressor.

If she really wanted to protect herself and family from an assailant, then she should have just called police, and waited for them to arrive from the safety of the inside of her house.
Especially when the "assailant" wasn't even on her property.
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:47 AM
 
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So, you are making claims, and rather than backing them up, you are asking me to prove you wrong.

Got it.

I read that she fired three shots at him at the scene of the hit and run, before she fled to her house.
They've been making up facts through 100+ pages of this thread.

Note the oft repeated "we're only getting one side" when in fact her own mother was there as a witness. They've also tried claiming the other witnesses were all biker buddies to imply they lied on his behalf. They weren't and the one witness was literally giving the play by play to 911 as it all went down.

Reality and shame have left the building long ago.
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Old 03-09-2022, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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They've been making up facts through 100+ pages of this thread.

Note the oft repeated "we're only getting one side" when in fact her own mother was there as a witness. They've also tried claiming the other witnesses were all biker buddies to imply they lied on his behalf. They weren't and the one witness was literally giving the play by play to 911 as it all went down.

Reality and shame have left the building long ago.
I know. But what I cant figure out is, what is their motivation? Why are they jumping through hoops to defend this person who is clearly deranged?

We should all be able to agree that there is something wrong with someone who hits someone with their car and then drives away, shouldn't we?
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Old 03-09-2022, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I know. But what I cant figure out is, what is their motivation? Why are they jumping through hoops to defend this person who is clearly deranged?

We should all be able to agree that there is something wrong with someone who hits someone with their car and then drives away, shouldn't we?
There’s been many reasons that the deranged woman has been defended, and one that really sticks out is that many simply don’t like bikers.
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Old 03-09-2022, 10:50 AM
 
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The biker dude still has to live inside his head with what he did for the rest of his life. He had other choices that would not have resulted in death.
So a lady tried to kill him twice, and he called the police and was waiting for them to show up and the psycho woman comes out of her safe house with a gun pointed at him while he is standing in the street not on her property. What other choice did he have? I think you meant SHE had other choices that would not have resulted in her death.
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Old 03-09-2022, 12:49 PM
 
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Not defending the woman who was killed but Andrew Derr was aggressive on the road per both witnesses. This all started while the shooter was driving past vehicles at a high rate of speed (per witness Nicolas Hirst) and tried to pass the blue vehicle. He became aggressive and started to ride next to the blue car and yell and point at it. Witness Cody Drew told police that after Derr’s motorcycle was hit, Derr kicked the driver’s side of Morales’ car, according to a report.
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Old 03-09-2022, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Not defending the woman who was killed but Andrew Derr was aggressive on the road per both witnesses. This all started while the shooter was driving past vehicles at a high rate of speed (per witness Nicolas Hirst) and tried to pass the blue vehicle. He became aggressive and started to ride next to the blue car and yell and point at it. Witness Cody Drew told police that after Derr’s motorcycle was hit, Derr kicked the driver’s side of Morales’ car, according to a report.
Good. Doing damage to someone’s vehicle, especially a motorcycle with someone on it, and leaving the scene of a crime warrants being aggressive on the road to follow them. If he had done anything wrong he’d have been cited. Good riddance to that roar rager.
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Old 03-09-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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Good. Doing damage to someone’s vehicle, especially a motorcycle with someone on it, and leaving the scene of a crime warrants being aggressive on the road to follow them. If he had done anything wrong he’d have been cited. Good riddance to that roar rager.
The only damage was his saddlebag had a scuff mark. Not all motorcyclists are a-holes. This one is.
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