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5 times more likley to get COVID. What does that really mean?
If a vaccinated person has a 1% chance, an unvaccinated person would have a 5% chance. So out of 100 people, 94 people will NOT get COVID. If it means there is a 0.05% chance of a vaccinated person that means a 0.25% chance of an unvaccinated.
You can throw out generalizations all day long, without context they mean nothing and are only meant as fear-mongering.
Actually many people whole heartily believe in the "Vax it or Casket" mentality. There are even a few posters on here that have had that as their bi-line.
But again with the generalizations? Without any numbers as context, "a Greater chance" means nothing. After all, a 0.05% chance vs a 0.06% chance would still be greater but statistically insignificant.
The only people clogging the ER's are asymptomatic mostly vaccinated people who listened to the CDC who said that even just a sniffle could mean you have COVID so you better go get tested and they went to the ER.
Most Hospitals and ICUs are NOT being overrun with COVID patients. In fact, in just about every State COVID is making up under 30% of the total utilization, and in many cases under 20%.
You beat me to it.
If a person has less than a 1% chance, 5x that is still .... less than 1%.
Does the small chance of you getting in a car wreck mean you don't wear seatbelts? After all, according to your reasoning, even though a person who wears seatbelts has a better chance of not getting injured badly in a wreck, because wrecks are so infrequent it's just fearmongering to expect people to wear seatbelts at all.
Now you want to punish people for risky behavior? I guess we are back to firing everyone in the hospital back in 2020. Also, how do you propose we punish the people who got the jab knowing there's a risk of all sorts of adverse events including blood clots, myocarditis, stroke, paralysis, GBS, Bells palsy and others?
First of all, none of those are communicable diseases that can be passed on to patients or fellow hospital staff.
Second of all, getting those from the vaccine are much rarer than getting Covid itself.
For those who support this, don’t complain about long waits, lower quality of care or a lack of hospital beds due to staffing shortages.
Yes as if that was ever a concern for people that rely on emergency rooms for treatment rather than the vaccine. This was 700 employees by the way, no breakdown as to function but I imagine most are other than nurses and doctors. 73,000 employees got vaccinated but 700 chose not to, but the good news is they can get their jobs back if they vaccinate.
Last thing we need it nurses and doctors that are regularly exposed to the virus ending up in ICU's.
Kudos to Mayo Clinic for doing the right thing. Proof of having had numerous FDA approved vaccinations have always been a condition of employment there. You don't like the rules at your job? Find the nearest door with an EXIT sign over it.
First of all, none of those are communicable diseases that can be passed on to patients or fellow hospital staff.
Second of all, getting those from the vaccine are much rarer than getting Covid itself.
Oh, so as long as the risk only involves the individual and not others, you are good with it. I thought the vaccinated are at almost no risk. You can't work both sides of this argument.
Oh, so as long as the risk only involves the individual and not others, you are good with it. I thought the vaccinated are at almost no risk. You can't work both sides of this argument.
I mean ... seriously ... how many more times do I have to explain this?
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007
It is really sad the amount of willful misrepresentation that goes on among anti-vaxxers.
I have now stated many times that vaccinated are 5 times less likely to get Covid than unvaccinated.
Is it so difficult to understand that that means some vaccinated people will still get Covid? "5 times less likely" simply means that for every 1 vaccinated person who gets Covid, there will be 5 unvaccinated people who get Covid.
Vaccinated people are getting tested for Covid every day. I myself have gotten tested while being vaccinated.
But yes, in the case of a hospital, since the objective of the hospital is to help sick people, it is a bigger deal to prevent hospital staff from getting a disease that they can pass on to others, than it is for one that's not communicable.
Yes as if that was ever a concern for people that rely on emergency rooms for treatment rather than the vaccine. This was 700 employees by the way, no breakdown as to function but I imagine most are other than nurses and doctors. 73,000 employees got vaccinated but 700 chose not to, but the good news is they can get their jobs back if they vaccinate.
Last thing we need it nurses and doctors that are regularly exposed to the virus ending up in ICU's.
Yet they were the first ones you wanted last year and the year before.
They were exposed for 2 years with no problems.
Now..you have "issues"....
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