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Old 01-21-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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I never thought I would actually see the day where people are advocating the merits of child labor. People who are supposedly "progressive". Shows you who they really are.
That would be the day people pull their heads out of the sand and see the real world.

Or the day people start to grow some empathy and stop virtue signaling.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:09 PM
 
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You seem to think there is a difference between "child labor" and child trafficking.

You are sorely mistaken.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/ou...or-trafficking
https://asiafoundation.org/2017/09/2...arment-sector/
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/re...of-goods-print
Child Labor and Child Abuse in Developing Countries
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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Off topic. We aren't talking about trafficking.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:18 PM
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It is into this vacuum, where children have no choice but to labor or starve, that enormous beneficial organizations like Amazima ministries, and World Vision have come.

Private dollars from wealthy first world citizens can, for money they won't even miss, feed clothe and school a child they form a communication relationship with.

Because it's not good enough to say "American children shouldn't be exploited, but children in poorer countries are open season to exploit, for our benefit". And yes, we DO benefit from child labor with cheap products.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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It is into this vacuum, where children have no choice but to labor or starve, that enormous beneficial organizations like Amazima ministries, and World Vision have come.

Private dollars from wealthy first world citizens can, for money they won't even miss, feed clothe and school a child they form a communication relationship with.

Because it's not good enough to say "American children shouldn't be exploited, but children in poorer countries are open season to exploit, for our benefit". And yes, we DO benefit from child labor with cheap products.
You don't have to exploit children in poor countries. You just need to watch them eat off dumpsters, sell themselves into prostitution, or die.

People in poor countries don't receive welfare from the taxpayers.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/i...lds-playground

Tell me how they can be in schools.
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Old 01-21-2022, 01:54 PM
 
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It is into this vacuum, where children have no choice but to labor or starve, that enormous beneficial organizations like Amazima ministries, and World Vision have come.

Private dollars from wealthy first world citizens can, for money they won't even miss, feed clothe and school a child they form a communication relationship with.

Because it's not good enough to say "American children shouldn't be exploited, but children in poorer countries are open season to exploit, for our benefit". And yes, we DO benefit from child labor with cheap products.
We have already established that there is no such concept as exploitation if there's no lying, cheating, and stealing and nobody is forced to work.

Those children work at such a young age because the alternatives would be much worse. You take away their ability to work, they die.

On the other hand, forcing other people to pay more taxes is exploitation. Receiving welfare is exploitation. Receiving more benefits than one contributes is exploitation.
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Old 01-21-2022, 02:36 PM
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You don't have to exploit children in poor countries. You just need to watch them eat off dumpsters, sell themselves into prostitution, or die.

People in poor countries don't receive welfare from the taxpayers.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/i...lds-playground

Tell me how they can be in schools.
Check out World Vision. For about 40 bucks a month, you sponsor a child (who you choose, based on the child's profile) and that pays for their schooling and uniforms and avails other services to the families.

And you can write to the child, or in some cases sponsors even travel to their country to meet the child. We've been sponsoring one for a few years now, and to see her blossom in the pictures is fabulous.

She wouldn't have had the chance to go to school without this program.
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Old 01-21-2022, 03:12 PM
 
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Check out World Vision. For about 40 bucks a month, you sponsor a child (who you choose, based on the child's profile) and that pays for their schooling and uniforms and avails other services to the families.

And you can write to the child, or in some cases sponsors even travel to their country to meet the child. We've been sponsoring one for a few years now, and to see her blossom in the pictures is fabulous.

She wouldn't have had the chance to go to school without this program.
That's a great idea! That is one way.

What about the other 100 million children?
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Old 01-21-2022, 03:21 PM
 
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A slightly controversial topic, what's wrong with child labor and "sweatshops"? Please don't tell me it's the law. Just because you passed a rule, it doesn't make it wrong.

I am not talking about the situation in the USA. I am talking about people living in those poor developing countries where their choices are between work and die/prostitution.

People in posh America throw around the words like child labor and sweatshops as morally superior because they don't support child labor and sweatshops. Duh, who the hell is for child labor and sweatshops if they have other alternatives?

If anybody here thinks the parents (if they have parents) of those children would send them to work over the choice of sending them to schools, you are out of touch with the real world.



Child slave labor is mala en se is why. The burden is on you is to prove its mala prohibita.



That is to say that there are some wrongs which cannot be used for any so called greater good because they are evil in itself.





So why not have poor families sell their youngest child into sex slavery for the creator good of the family? Why not have forced organ donations from "criminals"? Why not kill the terminally ill?



One can always find some good in evil acts. Kill half the people in a city and the traffic will run smoothly.
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Old 01-21-2022, 06:02 PM
 
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So long as the parents consent to it, there is nothing wrong with "child labor." In fact, many boys would learn far more on the job than they ever could in school, which are pretty much just feminist indoctrination camps.
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