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Old 02-01-2022, 07:32 PM
 
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Really tough to perform a study like this with valid data, you can't tell me that allowing air travel and cruise lines to continue in 2020 wouldn't have an impact on mortality.
You can't tell me it did either and you certainly can't tell me it was material enough to be relevant.

 
Old 02-01-2022, 07:32 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Really tough to perform a study like this with valid data, you can't tell me that allowing air travel and cruise lines to continue in 2020 wouldn't have an impact on mortality.
As the past two years have shown, we can't tell you any facts and expect them to sink in.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Really tough to perform a study like this with valid data, you can't tell me that allowing air travel and cruise lines to continue in 2020 wouldn't have an impact on mortality.
They screened over 18,000 studies to get about two dozen to analyze.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You can't tell me it did either and you certainly can't tell me it was material enough to be relevant.
An infectious respiratory disease isn't spread in confined spaces.

Really difficult to establish guidelines and criteria to come to any conclusion when there were so many varying degrees of restrictions.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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An infectious respiratory disease isn't spread in confined spaces.

Really difficult to establish guidelines and criteria to come to any conclusion when there were so many varying degrees of restrictions.
If there's not enough data to conclude one way, there's not enough to conclude the other way either.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I feel it unlikely that NZ would have only had a few more deaths than it's present toll of 53, without lockdowns.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 08:32 PM
 
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Really tough to perform a study like this with valid data, you can't tell me that allowing air travel and cruise lines to continue in 2020 wouldn't have an impact on mortality.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
An infectious respiratory disease isn't spread in confined spaces.

Really difficult to establish guidelines and criteria to come to any conclusion when there were so many varying degrees of restrictions.
I think most would agree that an airline and cruise line operate in an environment of confined and contained spaces. So you must agree that had air travel and cruise lines been more open in 2020 it would have been insignificant..

I wonder if you would have the same difficulty in the data and analysis if the report said that without the "restrictions" there would have been 65% more deaths?
 
Old 02-01-2022, 08:45 PM
 
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Oh, but JH is totally WRONG. Lockdowns did have major impact on deaths.
Not from covid though. Deaths from other diseases, that no one canceled, from psychosomatic diseases, developed during the 2 years, from people, that missed their cancer screenings or were afraid to go to clinics or hospitals, and so on.
Every half way decent economist knows that, when economy collapses or is being shut down - PEOPLE DIE as the result.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So we hurt the economy and ruined an untold number of businesses for absolutely nothing!

Lockdowns had little or no impact on COVID-19 deaths, new study shows
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/


So much for "trusting the science".
This pandemic has taught us a few things:

-You can't trust the government.
-You can't trust so called medical "experts"
-You can't trust the media who get their "facts" from the government and medical "experts".
 
Old 02-01-2022, 09:49 PM
 
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So we hurt the economy and ruined an untold number of businesses for absolutely nothing!

Lockdowns had little or no impact on COVID-19 deaths, new study shows
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...id-19-deaths-/


So much for "trusting the science".
This pandemic has taught us a few things:

-You can't trust the government.
-You can't trust so called medical "experts"
-You can't trust the media who get their "facts" from the government and medical "experts".
You know as well as I, that this was all about influencing voting patterns and making no-fault mail-in voting the norm for 2020.

Most of the people who died, had 3 to 4 other things already wrong with them. They died WITH COVID not from COVID. It won’t work in 22 or 24.
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