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Once again - an article and commentary that answers a question no one is asking.
Did lockdowns ultimately change the number of deaths? I dunno - I don't need to look either - because I DO know that was never the point. It was not to reduce deaths or cases - but to spread them out over time.
Good luck proving THAT didn't happen.
The April 2020 lockdowns/slow the spread was indeed to keep hospital systems* from being overwhelmed, where patients were dying at a high rate an the concern was by overloading the system, there would be some otherwise needless deaths.
*individual hospitals, regions of a state, they might easily be overwhelmed. But not statewide, or an adjoining states. Hawaii and Alaska being unique cases.
By June 2020, when cases had indeed flattened instead of their fast rise (remember when a key measure was how fast cases doubled?), hospitalizations had dropped by 2/3. Deaths had dropped by almost 75%.
We also knew by then that the ventilators weren't the magic bullet treatment, indeed they were largely the last gasp measure or caused harm if done too soon.
The April 2020 lockdowns/slow the spread was indeed to keep hospital systems* from being overwhelmed, where patients were dying at a high rate an the concern was by overloading the system, there would be some otherwise needless deaths.
*individual hospitals, regions of a state, they might easily be overwhelmed. But not statewide, or an adjoining states. Hawaii and Alaska being unique cases.
By June 2020, when cases had indeed flattened instead of their fast rise (remember when a key measure was how fast cases doubled?), hospitalizations had dropped by 2/3. Deaths had dropped by almost 75%.
We also knew by then that the ventilators weren't the magic bullet treatment, indeed they were largely the last gasp measure or caused harm if done too soon.
point of order, have not some of the rises SINCE been much higher than june 20? that sorta implies that didnt work EITHER.
The point of the lockdowns was to reduce the spread, not to reduce the mortality rate. It looks like another misuse of statistics.
The WHO, along with numerous independent academic studies, have demonstrated since 2020, that ordinary lockdowns do little to stop the spread of SARS-COV-2. Every new major VoC wave has rendered the potential success of lockdowns less viable. Now that we have the Omicron variant (and its sub-lineages) predominating worldwide — replete with its partial immune evasion and an R-naught exceeded only by that of Measles — the aforementioned conclusions are even more apropos to current policy considerations. The general consensus is that half the western world will have had it — knowingly or not — by spring. Other Western countries are already (rightly) reducing or eliminating restrictions given the combination of contagiousness & reduced virulence observed in Omicron, coupled with widespread combination-immunity conferred by vaccines and previous infection(s). It's time to stop embracing autocratic derangement. Those who prefer otherwise, should charter a one-way flight to China or North Korea.
sooooo... SCIENCE said our actions didnt help prevent deaths... (actually the SCIENCE says 250k people died from non-COVID related disease that they would not have died from had we not locked down).
and the people all in for lockdowns, masks and mandatory vaccinations.... who are always screaming the word SCIENCE!!!!! are arguing that it "doesnt matter" or they dont "believe the science"...
1. aint that interesting
2. what that means is, it was never about the "science"
3. it was never about protecting people.
sooooo... SCIENCE said our actions didnt help prevent deaths... (actually the SCIENCE says 250k people died from non-COVID related disease that they would not have died from had we not locked down).
and the people all in for lockdowns, masks and mandatory vaccinations.... who are always screaming the word SCIENCE!!!!! are arguing that it "doesnt matter" or they dont "believe the science"...
1. aint that interesting
2. what that means is, it was never about the "science"
3. it was never about protecting people.
Exactly. The government could care less about us. It's about control and money - the only things that they do care about.
Oh, but JH is totally WRONG. Lockdowns did have major impact on deaths.
Not from covid though. Deaths from other diseases, that no one canceled, from psychosomatic diseases, developed during the 2 years, from people, that missed their cancer screenings or were afraid to go to clinics or hospitals, and so on.
Every half way decent economist knows that, when economy collapses or is being shut down - PEOPLE DIE as the result.
I know several people who have died from covid restrictions. They were denied medical care.
I know several people who have died from covid restrictions. They were denied medical care.
I know a person who died of cancer while in isolation and didn't see the grandkids for over a year before the death
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