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Old 05-03-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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sorry Ukraine, you are now the #2 forum. Roe v wade rehash will be consuming all the lethal aid previously earmarked for you. Pro 'choice' separatists need the Javs for churches and schools to get their point across....


It was fun while it lasted.
Naaa....this train has already left the station. Although this Roe thing has moved everything off the screen...I don't see it impacting support for Ukraine or Foreign Policy decisions.

 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:38 AM
 
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It’s Russia’s strategy. Assign puppets to different regions of interest. Stir up separatist movements, and that makes it easier for annexation.
It goes further. They deport Ukrainian residents to Siberia and move ethnic Russians in their place. Stalin did it, and it's happening again.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Canada
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sorry Ukraine, you are now the #2 forum. Roe v wade rehash will be consuming all the lethal aid previously earmarked for you. Pro 'choice' separatists need the Javs for churches and schools to get their point across....

It was fun while it lasted.
Most of those who posted to this thread early on are no longer doing so:

//www.city-data.com/forum/misc....sted&t=3341266
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:42 AM
 
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Yes, they attack particular targets of interest where there's a concentration of Ukrainian armed forces. .
What gives them the right to do so?
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:50 AM
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The guy was democratically elected by a majority of Ukrainians.

Ultimately, Ukraine will have to be split up because the Russian majority in eastern Ukraine don't see eye to eye with the rest of Ukraine. They should be allowed to form their own state or join Russia if they wish. It should be decided by a fair election in the Donbas region.
First, that area is about 60% Ukrainian ethnically. It IS majority Russian speaking. Other than a few cities, Russians are the minority almost everywhere in the Donbas.

Second, its not clear how many of the people are pro-Russian. Outside the area the Russian mercenary separatist army held, I imagine those areas are about as anti-Russian as you can get now.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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What gives them the right to do so?

What gave the right to "Ukrainian state" to assassinate the prime minister of Donbass?
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:51 AM
bu2
 
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What gave the right to "Ukrainian state" to assassinate the prime minister of Donbass?
One of his fellow gangsters running the fiefdom was the most likely assassin. To get more of the spoils.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 09:59 AM
 
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First, that area is about 60% Ukrainian ethnically. It IS majority Russian speaking. Other than a few cities, Russians are the minority almost everywhere in the Donbas.

Second, its not clear how many of the people are pro-Russian. Outside the area the Russian mercenary separatist army held, I imagine those areas are about as anti-Russian as you can get now.

It was VERY CLEAR how many of them were pro-Russian back in 2014, after the coup d'etat in Kiev, sponsored by America.

This is an example; ( You can clearly hear them chanting "Russia, Russia," can't you?)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFmRzvZ8MS0&t=141s


It's after so many people in the South-East were killed/imprisoned/forced out of the country, and overall underwent the process of so-called "stabilization of the region," that now you can ask "how many people are pro-Russian."
There were plenty after that coup d'etat.

That Russia betrayed them back in 2014 is a whole different story.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Most of those who posted to this thread early on are no longer doing so:

http:////www.city-data.com/forum/mis...sted&t=3341266
I guess we are in a situation where Ukraine won and now we are in a pre-invasion position only with larger armies fighting over what Russia took in 2014. Assuming that Russia doesn't use a WMD and Ukraine gets stalled at restoring to the USSR borders it just becomes one of many world conflicts. And with that we lose interest in talking about.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 10:03 AM
 
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One of his fellow gangsters running the fiefdom was the most likely assassin. To get more of the spoils.



That's what propaganda wants you to believe.

And that's the lies the Ukrainian government was producing, while pointing at Kremlin.

In reality, this assassination was carried out with the help of the Canadian Intelligence service, as the later events are pointing at, ( not even American,) as much as the assassinations of the other two very popular in Donbass field commanders.

Not only Ukraine is a Nazi state, but it's a terrorist state.
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