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Old 03-06-2022, 09:15 PM
 
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What extraordinary technology did Reagan’s build up bring forth? I really would like to know because I have not heard of it.
Strategic Defense Initiative(SDI). Remember him briefing the US about it from the Oval Office.
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Old 03-06-2022, 09:37 PM
 
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At this point it feels that WW3 will happen, be it tomorrow or in 6 months but WW3 will happen. Ultimately it will go nuclear. Obviously there is no way to save majority of the public but does US government have any plans to actually save as many of the public as possible after nukes stop falling? Is there any underground shelters available around the country that general public will be able to access? Does the government have enough emergency food and water stored? Am i asking something that is impossible to be prepared for?

Why are you so certain that WW3 is going to happen? We need to step back and put things in perspective. Ukraine is one country. Yeah, it's horrible what Putin is doing. But he did the same thing to Crimea and that didn't start WW3. We've stood by other horrible conflicts and did nothing like the Rwandan genocide.

I seriously doubt our leaders are going to risk world world 3 and complete destruction of the planet over one single country.
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Old 03-06-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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Why are you so certain that WW3 is going to happen? We need to step back and put things in perspective. Ukraine is one country. Yeah, it's horrible what Putin is doing. But he did the same thing to Crimea and that didn't start WW3. We've stood by other horrible conflicts and did nothing like the Rwandan genocide.

I seriously doubt our leaders are going to risk world world 3 and complete destruction of the planet over one single country.
Three issue here going on. World didn't react to Russia taking Crimea the same way because Ukraine didn't put up much of a fight . Here it's an all out war on Ukraine and NATO is continuing to supply Ukrainian forces with weapons to continue fighting Russia. While not having boots on the ground NATO is involved. Lastly Putin sees Soviet Union falling apart as biggest tragedy of 20th century and is determined to put it back together. I do not believe he will stop at Ukraine but will go in to other countries that are under NATO protection. Assuming NATO will fight back, it will ultimately lead to WW3 as it will be direct fight between US and Russian forces.
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Old 03-06-2022, 10:24 PM
 
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Calculation was that Russian forces would quickly be able to overrun Ukraine military like they did in 2014 and have control of the country within few days. At that point NATO would not be able to do anything at all and the war basically would be over before it ever began.

Putin putting his nuclear arson on full alert is his way telling NATO to stay out and do not get involved which resupplying is getting involved and arguing that we are not involved because we do not have any troops on the ground is just splitting hair.
Putin has already warned NATO, and the US or the west as you wanna call it that if they got involved there would be severe consequences like the world has never seen before. He came out a second time today with another threat and also adding, “ I don’t usually issue a second warning” meaning I’m being nice, but if you send war planes here, you’re involved.

I’ve said it all along, Putin is in a must win situation. He wins, or he dies. What do you think he’s gonna do? Someone in his mental state, with the power he possesses, and probably in a delusional mindset. He’s gonna go all out. Like a cornered rat. He will fight ugly.

The only way out of this, if we decide to get involved, is negotiating a way that lets Russia have the control of Ukraine that they want. And a lot of face saving for Putin…Otherwise? Welcome to WWIII
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Old 03-06-2022, 10:35 PM
 
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Here we are in 2022 and still have a leader of a country trying to conquer another country. We should be past all this BS. If he is successful he will move on to others who were part of the soviet union. This has always been Putin's plan. He wants them back. No one wants WW3 but I think every country has been prepared for it.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:18 AM
 
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I seriously doubt our leaders are going to risk world world 3 and complete destruction of the planet over one single country.
Have you not been hearing and reading the war drums the media and many politicians and people have been beating? The Ukraine president has been elevated to a hero. Ukraine, which is a corrupt country that rich politicians and shady rich people go to to launder money and who Soros and Obama and Clinton have their dirty hands in.

Yeah let's destroy half the world for that some seem to think

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...up-during-2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAArjOBf_c
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:20 AM
 
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I do not believe he will stop at Ukraine but will go in to other countries that are under NATO protection. .
I don't think so. However NATO supplying arms to Ukraine a non-NATO country would give him reason to,
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:25 AM
 
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Here we are in 2022 and still have a leader of a country trying to conquer another country. We should be past all this BS. If he is successful he will move on to others who were part of the soviet union. This has always been Putin's plan. He wants them back. No one wants WW3 but I think every country has been prepared for it.
We seldom agree, but in this case, we do agree.

Putin is relishing NATO's timid actions, the way Hitler relished Neville Chamberlain's timid actions 8 plus decades ago.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:27 AM
 
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. He came out a second time today with another threat and also adding, “ I don’t usually issue a second warning” meaning I’m being nice, but if you send war planes here, you’re involved.
Our government escalating it, while Poland is supposedly not keen on the idea.the Biden administration has been a disaster on everything and now they might be part in ending half the world.


https://news.yahoo.com/explainer-why...202346208.html
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Washington has given a “green light” to the idea and is currently “very, very actively” looking at a proposal under which Ukraine's neighbor Poland would supply Kyiv with Soviet-era fighters and in turn receive American F-16s to make up for their loss.

However, the proposition is fraught with uncertainty and Poland has been less than enthusiastic about it in public, largely because Russia has warned that supporting Ukraine's air force would be seen in Moscow as participating in the conflict and open up suppliers to possible retaliation. Official comment from NATO and European Union member Poland has been only to confirm continuing talks on the subject.
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Old 03-07-2022, 01:33 AM
 
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We seldom agree, but in this case, we do agree.

Putin is relishing NATO's timid actions, the way Hitler relished Neville Chamberlain's timid actions 8 plus decades ago.
Oh please stop with the Chamberlain thing, you all honestly think Putin plans to roll across NATO countries and Europe?, even if he wanted to he doesn't have the military or people's support.

Yeah heard it before, got to go to Vietnam because today Vietnam, otherwise tomorrow the communists will take the world. Or got to go to Iraq otherwise tomorrow another 9/11

Ukraine is a corrupt country that politicians including Americans and shady rich people have their dirty hands in

Do I support Putin? no but let's not pretend he is the only greedy corrupt one in this game.

Some of you want to shoot at Russians, go volunteer in Ukraine but leave WW3 out of it.
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