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Old 03-06-2022, 03:50 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I learned how to survive it in grade school. Stand in front of a metal wall locker and cover your eyes. you will be fine........

Geez, and all this time I thought you had to cower under your desk and cover your head as we were taught when we thought it likely the sky would rain Ruski nukes any day.
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Old 03-06-2022, 03:54 PM
 
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WWIII is imminent. My guess is within 30 days. No more.
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Old 03-06-2022, 04:40 PM
 
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A one megaton bomb destroys about 80 square miles.
There are about 3,000 ready to be used. If all of them are used, then that would destroy 240,000 square miles, if none are overlapped. Earth's land area is about 197,000,000 square miles, so the structures on about 1.2% of the land area could be destroyed as well as the people living in those places.

Supposed all 3,000 were used against the USA. That's enough to attack all the cities of over 100,000 people (about 340), but not enough to get all the small towns (about 16,000). About 20% of the population lives in rural areas if defined as far from cities.
However, many citites are much larger than 80 square miles and would require multiple bombs to obliterate them. Atlanta has over 6 million people spread over 8,000 square miles. A single one megaton bomb would wreak havoc, sure, but that would leave 99% of the city not destroyed.

In Hiroshima, the bomb was dropped August 6, 1945, and recovery began surprisingly quick.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...ar-destruction
"The blast instantly killed 80,000 of the Hiroshima’s 420,000 residents; by the end of the year, the death toll would rise to 141,000 as survivors succumbed to injuries or illnesses connected to their exposure to radiation.

The lights came back on in the Ujina area on 7 August, and around Hiroshima railway station a day later. Power was restored to 30% of homes that had escaped fire damage, and to all households by the end of November 1945, according to records kept by the Hiroshima Peace Institute.

Water pumps were repaired and started working again four days after the bombing, although damaged pipes created vast puddles among the ashes of wooden homes. The central telephone exchange bureau was destroyed and all of its employees killed, yet essential equipment was retrieved and repaired, and by the middle of August 14 experimental lines were back in operation.

Eighteen workers and a dozen finance bureau employees at the Hiroshima branch of the Bank of Japan, one of the city’s few concrete buildings, died instantly, yet the bank reopened two days later, offering floor space to 11 other banks whose premises had been destroyed. "
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Old 03-06-2022, 04:55 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Is there any underground shelters available around the country that general public will be able to access?
Way back in the dinosaur era when I was a kid, there actually were bomb shelters. They were stocked with food and water and tended to be in basements of the local schools, large buildings, etc. I recall the little "Civil Defense" signs.

Nowadays? None that I know of. Back then we all knew about them. At least in my town.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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A one megaton bomb destroys about 80 square miles.
There are about 3,000 ready to be used. If all of them are used, then that would destroy 240,000 square miles, if none are overlapped. Earth's land area is about 197,000,000 square miles, so the structures on about 1.2% of the land area could be destroyed as well as the people living in those places.

Supposed all 3,000 were used against the USA. That's enough to attack all the cities of over 100,000 people (about 340), but not enough to get all the small towns (about 16,000). About 20% of the population lives in rural areas if defined as far from cities.
However, many citites are much larger than 80 square miles and would require multiple bombs to obliterate them. Atlanta has over 6 million people spread over 8,000 square miles. A single one megaton bomb would wreak havoc, sure, but that would leave 99% of the city not destroyed.

In Hiroshima, the bomb was dropped August 6, 1945, and recovery began surprisingly quick.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...ar-destruction
"The blast instantly killed 80,000 of the Hiroshima’s 420,000 residents; by the end of the year, the death toll would rise to 141,000 as survivors succumbed to injuries or illnesses connected to their exposure to radiation.

The lights came back on in the Ujina area on 7 August, and around Hiroshima railway station a day later. Power was restored to 30% of homes that had escaped fire damage, and to all households by the end of November 1945, according to records kept by the Hiroshima Peace Institute.

Water pumps were repaired and started working again four days after the bombing, although damaged pipes created vast puddles among the ashes of wooden homes. The central telephone exchange bureau was destroyed and all of its employees killed, yet essential equipment was retrieved and repaired, and by the middle of August 14 experimental lines were back in operation.

Eighteen workers and a dozen finance bureau employees at the Hiroshima branch of the Bank of Japan, one of the city’s few concrete buildings, died instantly, yet the bank reopened two days later, offering floor space to 11 other banks whose premises had been destroyed. "
Well, it was little more than that...

The human consequences of the atomic bombings have not ceased; many people are still dying of radiation-induced malignant diseases.
It is STILL too early to finalize the total death toll.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full....2019.1681226#
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:21 PM
 
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Agree. I am surprised that we haven't had any cyber attacks. Is Russia just skilled at it when we aren't paying attention. If you go to Russian media as well he seems to be trying to sooth the west and his propganda seems to be trying to calm us. While the west media is trying to alarm us.

They are shelling the power plants and comms towers in Ukraine because they couldn't take anything down electronically. If anyone would be a target of a Russian cyber attack it would be Ukraine and there is no evidence that any of their comms or utilities have been disrupted.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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Well, it was little more than that...

The human consequences of the atomic bombings have not ceased; many people are still dying of radiation-induced malignant diseases.
It is STILL too early to finalize the total death toll.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full....2019.1681226#
What you said is true, but the small number of people dying in the years after a struke is not relevant to this thread. The recovery of Hiroshima and Nagasaki makes that plain.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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At this point it feels that WW3 will happen, be it tomorrow or in 6 months but WW3 will happen. Ultimately it will go nuclear. Obviously there is no way to save majority of the public but does US government have any plans to actually save as many of the public as possible after nukes stop falling? Is there any underground shelters available around the country that general public will be able to access? Does the government have enough emergency food and water stored? Am i asking something that is impossible to be prepared for?
Only the elitists have bunkers and food.
Now with dumbest guy in the White House .Biden is funding Putin 's war chest to bomb the ukrainians.Biden is also considering buying oil from Iran when we have our very own. Biden is a fraud when you produce oil tell me is the United States going to pollute any worse than Russia or Iran by producing a gallon of oil? Biden rather strengthen the communist countries and destroy our economy and destroy our country. Don't be fooled. That pollution garbage is a bunch of bull. As if Russia's oil cannot pollute but only Americans oil pollutes it's a hoax folks it's a hoax. Biden would rather give the money to the communist countries and is listening to the Marxist communists who are running the lefties with the woke garbage.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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Putin is a kleptocrat -- an opportunist removed (but not that far) from a time when inept managers sometimes suffered at the hands of the Soviet regime. He probably knows how to play power poker just as well as many of us, but I don't see him as inclined toward nuclear brinksmanship.

Nearly forty years have passed since the Reagan-inspired defense build-up of the early 1980's brought forth a technology which no other military power could hope to match -- which hastened the (bloodless, BTW) collapse of the Soviet slave economy under the weight of its own chains -- and with the "peacenik" component of Western society (probably with Soviet aid and financing) seeking to undermine our resolve every step of the way,

Good riddance to Red rubbish! But I don't think any of you special snowflakes have to worry about being blown out of your blankies anytime soon.
What extraordinary technology did Reagan’s build up bring forth? I really would like to know because I have not heard of it.
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Old 03-06-2022, 05:45 PM
 
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A one megaton bomb destroys about 80 square miles.
There are about 3,000 ready to be used. If all of them are used, then that would destroy 240,000 square miles, if none are overlapped. Earth's land area is about 197,000,000 square miles, so the structures on about 1.2% of the land area could be destroyed as well as the people living in those places.

Supposed all 3,000 were used against the USA. That's enough to attack all the cities of over 100,000 people (about 340), but not enough to get all the small towns (about 16,000). About 20% of the population lives in rural areas if defined as far from cities.
However, many citites are much larger than 80 square miles and would require multiple bombs to obliterate them. Atlanta has over 6 million people spread over 8,000 square miles. A single one megaton bomb would wreak havoc, sure, but that would leave 99% of the city not destroyed.

In Hiroshima, the bomb was dropped August 6, 1945, and recovery began surprisingly quick.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...ar-destruction
"The blast instantly killed 80,000 of the Hiroshima’s 420,000 residents; by the end of the year, the death toll would rise to 141,000 as survivors succumbed to injuries or illnesses connected to their exposure to radiation.

The lights came back on in the Ujina area on 7 August, and around Hiroshima railway station a day later. Power was restored to 30% of homes that had escaped fire damage, and to all households by the end of November 1945, according to records kept by the Hiroshima Peace Institute.

Water pumps were repaired and started working again four days after the bombing, although damaged pipes created vast puddles among the ashes of wooden homes. The central telephone exchange bureau was destroyed and all of its employees killed, yet essential equipment was retrieved and repaired, and by the middle of August 14 experimental lines were back in operation.

Eighteen workers and a dozen finance bureau employees at the Hiroshima branch of the Bank of Japan, one of the city’s few concrete buildings, died instantly, yet the bank reopened two days later, offering floor space to 11 other banks whose premises had been destroyed. "
I’m glad you wrote this, because everyone seems to be under the impression that a nuclear war would make the entire world into a lifeless wasteland. Don’t get me wrong, there would be massive loss of life and major cities in the US and Russia would be leveled. But most of the world would not be targeted. And even the majority of area within the US and Russia would not be targeted. Much of these areas would be impacted by nuclear fallout. But that doesn’t mean that life ceases or that all infrastructure is unusable.
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