U.S. Senate approves bill that would make Daylight Savings Time Permanent (border, lobby)

[MJJersey]

I see some practical advantages to keeping it at "daylight time" but "standard time" is the "real time." We should go back to that and leave it alone.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by BlakeJones

In New York daylight maximum is like 8:30 pm in June. With Standard Time that would have turned into 7:30 which would be a disaster

Well, in northern Michigan it doesn't get dark till 10 pm in the summer. What about the conservation issue here in the southwest that I mentioned? Isn't that more important?

[Winterbeard]

Originally Posted by MattCW

No, it will be permanently established. We'll be one hour wrong compared to the rest of the world

Goes along with the bizarre aversion to the metric system. Rest of the world be damned.

I'd rather keep standard time than daylight savings, but I don't care that much.

[middle-aged mom]

This happened in 1973, too. The masses hated it.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by tipsyguam

I find it funny how much people complain about this. If the biggest thing i had to be worry about was change a few clocks(many of which are automagically changed these days) every 6 months Id have a simple life. So many snowflakes. I do not see how something like this is really that big a deal either way.

The vast majority of the complaining is due to night time conditions at 4 pm in the winter. This is what is driving all the motivation to change to DST permanently. If schools don't like the darker morning, start later. They need to start later anyways, every study shows a tired kid doesn't learn when they are forced to school so early

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

The sun would rise about 8:30 in December if clocks were not turned back

And? Except for the weekends, I am either working or getting ready for work at 8:30am. Daylight is not particularly useful at that time of the day.

[2mares]

Originally Posted by toodie

I remember seeing kids waiting at school bus stops on dark mornings when it was pouring rain. Not good, especially near busy streets. It's convenient for adults in most cases, but it's not safe for kids.

There will be kids waiting for the bus in the dark either way. Right now with the DST it is dark when kids get on the bus, but it will be light before school is out for summer. Just before DST it was light but it will be dark again on Standard time in the fall.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by AtkinsonDan

8:30 am. Daylight is not particularly useful at that time of the day.

more specifically, it's completely useless

[AZLiam]

Originally Posted by jwest09

So Arizona will be a Mountain Time Zone state, time will be with Pacific Zone states permanently, if bill passes.confused:

Yeah...

[Winterbeard]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

This happened in 1973, too. The masses hated it.

I think the masses hate changing time twice a year, but also hate the consequences of not doing so. The other option is that instead of clocks changing you put school/work times back an hour in winter. That seems unlikely.