If Socialism is So Great, Why Does it Never Work Out??? (Putin, salaries)

[vincenze]

Originally Posted by moneill

Many employers offer insurance at no cost to the employee. Most multinationals are in this bucket.

REally?

I have never met anybody whose insurance is 100% provided by their employer. Anybody here ever know anybody that had that benefit.

Silicon Valley companies may provide $0-employee-part insurance, but even they don't provide free insurance to all members of a family.
Also, unlike countries with free healthcare, you may have to pay a hefty deductible.

[vincenze]

Originally Posted by Leo58

Of course, it all depends on what you mean by socialism. If you don’t consider the above countries to be socialist, but rather are thinking of hard core socialism as in North Korea or Venezuela, then I doubt there is anyone on this forum saying that type of socialism is good.

Venezuela can sell oil and buy everything. All Venezuelans can work only 4 hours a day and enjoy life.

But there are a few countries that actively oppose this kind of socialism.

[psikeyhackr]

Being attacked by capitalists to make sure that they do not succeed might be a factor.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer...Force,_Siberia


It is curious that 700 year old double-entry accounting is not mandatory in the schools.


https://www.upi.com/Accounting-colle...2121056408042/

[momonkey]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

In what country do you live? I've never heard anyone talk like this. Your reference to a ruling class sounds like you live in a communist country.

I prefer the term "political class," but it means the same thing.

It's a small group of very wealthy individuals that are able to manipulate the political process for their own benefit.

What would you call them?

[HJ99]

Originally Posted by paracord

Yeah, the people beating down our doors to get into the USA by any means necessary disagree with you.

But their countries have already been made unbearable BY CAPITALISM. They are looking for place where worker bees have higher living standard than the crumbs tossed by handful of CAPITALISTS/Kleptocrats. The end game of Capitalism is just like Parker Bros Monopoly. Its to concentrate the wealth down to one single player. When one player has it all, declare him King and start all over making him share the wealth and political power. He grants use of some properties to his cronies in exchange for their loyal support......

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by HJ99

But their countries have already been made unbearable BY CAPITALISM. They are looking for place where worker bees have higher living standard than the crumbs tossed by handful of CAPITALISTS/Kleptocrats. The end game of Capitalism is just like Parker Bros Monopoly. Its to concentrate the wealth down to one single player. When one player has it all, declare him King and start all over making him share the wealth and political power. He grants use of some properties to his cronies in exchange for their loyal support......

Great speech but utter nonsense top to bottom. Guys like you yearn for Norway but they won't take you.

[albert648]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Great speech but utter nonsense top to bottom. Guys like you yearn for Norway but they won't take you.

Nor do they want to pay Norway taxes. Norweigians pay a stupidly high VAT...something like 25%....among other absurdly high taxes.

They think eating the rich is enough to pay for all that welfare.

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by HJ99

But their countries have already been made unbearable BY CAPITALISM. They are looking for place where worker bees have higher living standard than the crumbs tossed by handful of CAPITALISTS/Kleptocrats. The end game of Capitalism is just like Parker Bros Monopoly. Its to concentrate the wealth down to one single player. When one player has it all, declare him King and start all over making him share the wealth and political power. He grants use of some properties to his cronies in exchange for their loyal support......

Which country is made unbearable by capitalism? Can you name one thing that is not provided for you by capitalism?

You people are so ungrateful.

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by albert648

Nor do they want to pay Norway taxes. Norweigians pay a stupidly high VAT...something like 25%....among other absurdly high taxes.

They think eating the rich is enough to pay for all that welfare.

They can eat the rich now but after that, they would be eating each other literally.

[danielj72]

Originally Posted by HJ99

Capitalism works great for the wealthy, not so great for anybody else. Being an economic slave, but having latest greatest cell phone, not a great tradeoff.

Capitalism provides a greater standard of living for more people than any other economic system. The poor in America have food, shelter and even a fair amount of luxuries. In some countries being poor means you live in a dirt floor shack and have little food and water. Capitalism has provided for most of us even if it is not equally. Capitalism motivates people to do better and that is why it produces more. Is it fair? No. Life is not fair. Capitalism the most successful economic system in the world. Marxist systems like socialism and communism are utter failures and have resulted in authoritarian societies, wars, mass poverty and human misery.

The United States is no different, if we implement socialism we will face the same consequences that all the others did who have had. Venezuela anyone?