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Old 05-04-2022, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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That’s exactly what makes abortion complicated. The decision to terminate one’s pregnancy only allows one person’s belief or decision to stand and that decision has a very big impact on the life of the other human involved who has zero say in the matter.

If only it were as simple as just each person choosing what is best for them.
Yep. This isn't just about the life of the mother at issue here. If it was, the debate would be an easy one.

 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Surely it's not a stretch to suggest the circumstances between a pregnancy and an organ donor are extraordinarily different.
If that's what this argument is reduced to, God help us.

I knew nihilism was becoming more and more pervasive in our society, but it may be worse than I thought.
That is exactly what pregnancy is. Nourishing the development of another person using the resources of the mother's body.

You can categorize it any way you want, but that is what a pregnant woman's body is doing.
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:15 PM
 
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I can evict a squatter from my property. I can shoot and kill someone who enters my house without my permission.

It has nothing to do with moral virtue, and everything to do with bodily autonomy.
And I'm sure you do.

What's your body count?
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:15 PM
 
Location: USA
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"NOBODY has the right to use your body against your will, even to save their life, or the life of another person. That's it. That's the argument."

I agree
I'm now a Republican and I support abortion, but with the Democrat party not really knowing the difference between a man and a woman, they really don't have an argument!
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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"NOBODY has the right to use your body against your will, even to save their life, or the life of another person. That's it. That's the argument."

I agree
I'm now a Republican and I support abortion, but with the Democrat party not really knowing the difference between a man and a woman, they really don't have an argument!
Why? It doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman you should not be required to use your own body to keep another person alive. Bodily autonomy should apply to all people.
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:21 PM
 
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That is exactly what pregnancy is. Nourishing the development of another person using the resources of the mother's body.

You can categorize it any way you want, but that is what a pregnant woman's body is doing.
It’s actually mutually beneficial. Carrying a pregnancy to term reduces risk of several cancers for mom. Breastfeeding does as well. It’s not a one way relationship.
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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It’s actually mutually beneficial. Carrying a pregnancy to term reduces risk of several cancers for mom. Breastfeeding does as well. It’s not a one way relationship.
Yeah, so does exercising and eating healthy. You want someone coming over and forcing you to do that?

We need control over our own bodies.
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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Everyone's body is their choice what they want to do with it: I'm pro choice when it comes to both abortion and Covid vaccines.
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:25 PM
 
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Ok great then. Fathers/mothers don’t have to use their bodies against their will to make money for child support payments. Or even to raise that child for that matter.
What happens if I refuse to use my body to pay off taxes? The government can lock it up.

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A great deal of them do that now.
Typically, not legally though.

Equal rights might imply that men could choose against fatherhood.
 
Old 05-04-2022, 03:26 PM
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I can donate blood in an hour walk out and have no negative lasting effects for the donation. Compared to pregnancy and childbirth which can and do cause lasting medical issues even death.

Neither should be forced.
Well then, don't get pregnant.
And to the dude, if he doesn't want to support a child and be a father, don't get a girl pregnant.

Look at the world around you. Has life without consequences made the country a better place? Not that I can tell, but of course it's never been perfect either.
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