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Old 05-10-2022, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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The legal argument comes from our laws which is murder is against the law.
Are we going to have the argument of when a fetus is alive?

 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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How is leaving issues up to the states considered being a "zealot?" If the left had stacked the courts and make all activist rulings I doubt they'd be making the same claims.

At this point I take whatever the mainstream media says with a grain of salt. Their bias is obvious.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:27 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Simple fix to the entire dispute, especially since there is so much claimed support for abortion rights: Get a Constitutional Amendment ratified that guarantees the right to abortion. There are 27 Constitutional Amendments. This could be the 28th. So where's the problem?
For most of American history, abortion was considered to be illegal or criminal in virtually every state.

It would be quite an about face to make abortion legal everywhere by Constitutional Amendment.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:28 PM
 
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But taking away rights is more of an infringement on the rights of the woman. Just because one doesn't agree with the law doesn't mean anything in the context of the Supreme Court. Do I think that men should be making choices about the body of a woman? No, but that's also irrelevant. The point is that it's taking away a right, and it would be the first time that the Supreme Court would be ruling against the rights of a person. The leaked draft has very little evidence on why Roe was wrongly decided; it's kind of just stated as such.
It's not about the body or rights of the woman but the body and rights of an unborn human being. Where are their rights to not be killed?
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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That was from memory. I'm sorry. Also, I believe that a life is not a life until viable.
I don't have an agenda. I'm not a leftist fanatic. I'm a pro-choice 17 year old from Iowa. Stop trying to make me something I'm not.

If you want people to believe your thoughts, I suggest not constantly attacking anyone who has a disagreement with you. I'm trying to have a civil discussion.
What does science say about it? Your opinion doesn't matter.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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I’m a Center-Right person and to me, I don’t care about the abortion issue one way or another. I do feel that it’s a State matter, so let the States vote on it.

My only issue with abortions is late term and up to birth, at which point, it’s murder.

I don’t care what the Left says about the Supreme Court since if they don’t get their way, they want to destroy it.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:32 PM
 
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Are we going to have the argument of when a fetus is alive?
It's a human being from the time it's conceived.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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What does science say about it? Your opinion doesn't matter.
If her opinion doesn't matter then neither does yours. This whole forum is opinions.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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It's a human being from the time it's conceived.
Opinion.

And others are allowed to have a different opinion. Then we argue. That is what a forum is for.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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It's not about the body or rights of the woman but the body and rights of an unborn human being. Where are their rights to not be killed?
Something has to be alive to die
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