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Old 05-24-2022, 04:26 PM
 
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Ah, I wondered when you throw out the race card. Typical! Are you not aware that we already have millions of legal immigrants and citizens of all races and ethnicities here? So where's the xenophobia?
On a per capita basis, you take far less immigrants than Canada does. And in raw numbers, you take far less refugees.

Why would that be? The USA has far more resources, per capita, than Canada?

 
Old 05-24-2022, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Cali
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On a per capita basis, you take far less immigrants than Canada does. And in raw numbers, you take far less refugees.

Why would that be? The USA has far more resources, per capita, than Canada?
US takes far less refugees? I agree.

That’s why the asylum seekers at the SW border should apply for refugee status in their own country or third country. That’s the definition of refugee
 
Old 05-24-2022, 04:29 PM
 
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Your illegal immigration system is broken. I am against illegal immigration that follows sensible laws... currently the USA one doesn't.

I would have thought you could see that.
'illegal immigration that follows sensible laws'?

WTF?

Illegal immigration, by definition, does not follow any laws.
 
Old 05-24-2022, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Cali
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'illegal immigration that follows sensible laws'?

WTF?

Illegal immigration, by definition, does not follow any laws.
I am a law abiding citizen shoplifter
 
Old 05-24-2022, 05:39 PM
 
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The issue of water shortages in the west is real, driven much because of the years long drought, climate change, and the propensity to grow high water use luxury agriculture like almonds and avocados.

The USA is much more than one region. How many people are needed? I am not that expert, however, many economic forecasts show that many more are needed.

Canada has 401,000 immigrants come in 2021. On a per capita basis, that is 4 times the amount the USA takes in.

In addition, Canada takes in 3 times the number of refugees, in raw actual numbers, than the USA does. It is doing its fair share. So, Canada encourages more immigration, in fact, it wants even more. Why do you think that is?
Avocados a luxury? Hardly. We've always had them in the markets. Perhaps that's not the case in Canada? Anyway...You inadvertently hit on a good point --- More people means more demand for food be it vegetables, fruits, dairy products, poultry products, seafood or meats. All these things require using water in their everyday functions. All the more reason to not increase immigration.

So...why can't Canada take in 1 million legal immigrants per year? After all, there's lots of room in the northern parts of the provinces and territories. Taking in that many per you would make you positively giddy
 
Old 05-24-2022, 05:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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Your illegal immigration system is broken. I am against illegal immigration that follows sensible laws... currently the USA one doesn't.

I would have thought you could see that.
You almost made a direct answer, normie! But not quite, because ...

1. What does "I am against illegal immigration that follows sensible laws" mean?

2. "... currently the USA one doesn't." Presumably you mean that because the U.S. doesn't have "sensible" (to you) immigration laws, it's okay to break them.

You were almost there ... not quite a straightforward answer, yet almost ... but at least it's beyond doubt now that you condone illegal migration because present U.S. immigration laws aren't "sensible" enough to you.

No, we can't always see "that" which is obtuse, deflective, and non-direct. Sorry.
 
Old 05-24-2022, 05:54 PM
 
Location: USA
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'illegal immigration that follows sensible laws'?

WTF?

Illegal immigration, by definition, does not follow any laws.
This is an obtuse jewel of a statement ... one of the best I've yet seen. So bad it's good.
 
Old 05-24-2022, 06:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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What’s the number of LEGAL immigrants US has to take in every year to be “un-xenophobia”? Give me a number

Or are you implying if someone is anti ILLEGAL immigrants, that person is xenophobic?
There's no way to satisfy this particular mindset. They want to put you on the defensive to deflect from the subject. I usually deal with it by saying, "Yes, I hate everybody. Let's get back to the subject."
 
Old 05-24-2022, 06:02 PM
 
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On a per capita basis, you take far less immigrants than Canada does. And in raw numbers, you take far less refugees.

Why would that be? The USA has far more resources, per capita, than Canada?
So what? I already told you what our sensible criteria is for legal immigration. Are you saying that Canada has no criteria? One doesn't have to have skills and can be dirt poor and uneducated to migrate to Canada? Come on, you know better than that! I have even read up on Canada's immigration policies because at one time I was considering moving there. Every country in the world has the right to set their own immigration policies regardless of what anyone else thinks anyway. No country in the world is obligated to take in any immigrants if they don't want to.
 
Old 05-24-2022, 06:09 PM
 
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US takes far less refugees? I agree.

That’s why the asylum seekers at the SW border should apply for refugee status in their own country or third country. That’s the definition of refugee
So we are going to niggle about the use of the words of refugee vs asylum seekers, are we?

In Canada, a refugee can make the claim while in the country.

From the Canadian website
"Individuals can make a refugee claim in Canada at a port of entry upon arrival or online if already in Canada. CBSA or IRCC officials will determine if an individual is eligible to be referred to the Immigration and Refugee Board for a hearing. Factors determining an individual’s eligibility to make a refugee claim include whether the claimant has committed a serious crime, made a previous claim in Canada, or received protection in another country."
No matter what, why can little tiny Canada take in more refugees than the USA?
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