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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:03 AM
 
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Of course it's different. The last one died.
Some died...does not make me happy, Ukrainians or Russians.
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:04 AM
 
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Of course it's different. The last one died.
As the Ukrainians said, they already defeated Russia’s professional army, we’ll see what their conscript army can do.
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:07 AM
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The rest of my post above should hopefully furnish you with an indication as to why.

Even if you're against Ukraine, I can't imagine anyone supporting Putin. But then again, Hitler had his supporters too.
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:08 AM
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Just to let you know - in this case you are promoting Ukrainian war crimes.

These Russian soldiers are not drowning "just because they lost balance."
Reports are coming from the front lines that Ukrainians are dropping the chemical weapons from those drones.

Says who? Your Russian comrades?
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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Even if you're against Ukraine, I can't imagine anyone supporting Putin. But then again, Hitler had his supporters too.
Your failure (not refusal - failure, for the facts are not something you've demonstrated to have within your grasp) to refute anything of what I wrote leads you to these personal attacks. Yet here again you like other posters write something while being blissfully unaware of the great irony that your statement contains.

Vladimir Putin lost relatives who actually picked up weapons and fought against the Wehrmacht following the start of Operation Barbarossa. That you would use Adolf Hitler as part of an unintelligent, unreasoned, and historically unaware sentence only highlights the generally unimpressive level of knowledge about not only the Russia-Ukraine situation displayed here on a daily basis, but also about germane facts about the Soviet effort in the eastern front of World War II.

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Old 02-08-2023, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Is there any reason to believe that the anticipated Russian offensive will be any different than their previous offensives?
Professional soldiers fall back to continue the fight. We seem to be in the grab the weapons your fallen comrade dropped with the surviving Russians
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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Just to let you know - in this case you are promoting Ukrainian war crimes.

These Russian soldiers are not drowning "just because they lost balance."
Reports are coming from the front lines that Ukrainians are dropping the chemical weapons from those drones
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You have a reliable independent source to back that up?
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Is there any reason to believe that the anticipated Russian offensive will be any different than their previous offensives?
Nope....they don't have enough stuff. They will go with what they got maybe make a few gains then culminate and that will be ripe for Ukraine to launch a counteroffensive. At least that's what the sources I follow are saying. The coming RU offensive will be very underwhelming.
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:18 AM
 
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You have a reliable independent source to back that up?
I’m still waiting to hear about the NATO generals captured/killed in Ukraine by the Russians.
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:19 AM
 
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Some died...does not make me happy, Ukrainians or Russians.
Strange how the Ukrainians would likely not have killed the Russians if the Russians had just stayed home.

Or maybe not so strange.

What is important is not what makes you happy, but what makes the citizens of Ukraine happy. Not what makes Putin happy, nor what makes Shoigu or the rest of the Russian oligarchy happy, nor what makes the Wagner groupies happy.

Ukraine is its own country and has been for quite some time now. Putin needs to get out of his Wayback machine and take care of his own country where he was elected by a population that only needed their constitution changed to make that happen. He needs to stay where he is loved and admired rather than trying to force Ukraine back into a relationship with Mother Russia, even if that means living with the thwarted desire to "re-unite" the Kievan Rus.

Advice to Putin: Be mindful and live in the present.
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