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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
No 254 50.70%
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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NATO keeps peace. LOL. What's a pipeline or two among friends. Anyone hear Putin say Biden must be removed from office in his speech this week?
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:30 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The West has invaded Russia 5 times in the last 400 years and twice in the last 100 years. Why should Russia trust the West?.............
Why would it matter if Russia "trusts" anyone?
Russia is being destroyed. They did it to themselves by acting stupidly.
It's not the first time in history an opening move was so foolish that it doomed the aggressor.
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:57 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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This is absurd. Who cares what may have happened 400 years ago? The USA, Germany and Italy did not exist. France was a monarchy. The UK was a group of warring independent kingdoms. Sweden and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth were strong regional powers.

Invaded twice in the past 100 years by the west? Ok, Germany invaded in WW2. Most countries have gotten over WW2. Germany and France are now allies, the US and Japan are friendly as well. What was the 2nd invasion?
The US invaded Russia during their civil war, otherwise known as the Russian Revolution. It invaded the Russian Far East. I guess it's been a smidge over 100 years since that took place. So does it still count?
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:06 AM
 
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Who cares what happened 400 years ago?

Today, Russia is invading Ukraine.

and for 20 years the U.S. and the West invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Your point?

WW 1 and WW 2 didn't happened 400 years ago. You would expect some Americans to know some history like a C+ since the U.S. can't stop talking about the 2 wars especially WW 2 and it's the beginning of the division from West and East that continues today but it shows the memory span on some Americans. "Forget history, just focus on what you are being told today. Shut up, don't ask questions. Get with the program".

That's why people around the world can't stand the U.S. The b.s. some spread.

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Old 02-25-2023, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The US invaded Russia during their civil war, otherwise known as the Russian Revolution. It invaded the Russian Far East. I guess it's been a smidge over 100 years since that took place. So does it still count?
It counts for history, has absolutely no bearing, ... now.
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The armchair general warmongers have lost

NATO is now tired of funding this proxy war.
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French, German and British leaders encouraged Ukrainian President Zelensky to start peace talks with Russia this year, officials from the three governments said, as some of Kyiv’s Western partners have growing doubts over its ability to reconquer all its territory.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/natos-b...od=djem10point

The warmongers finally realized Ukraine will always border Russia, doesn’t matter how much your enrich Zelensky and his cronies.

Russia, aided by China, was always going to let the west run out of patience.
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:15 AM
 
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The US invaded Russia during their civil war, otherwise known as the Russian Revolution. It invaded the Russian Far East. I guess it's been a smidge over 100 years since that took place. So does it still count?

Don't feed steak to babies about history. Too much info. Russia has every reason to distrust the West if anybody got at least a B in history and got half of brain to retain information.


A country that for 20 years with the West invaded Iraq and Afghanistan lecturing the world about Russia invading Ukraine. You can't make this up. "Forget history, just focus on today"
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The idea that Ukraine is fighting for freedom or democracy is the biggest ****ing joke. Yet retards in the West keep repeating it ad nauseum. I can't tell if these people are liars or just stupid.
That’s 100% correct, and NATO realizes they’ve been fooled. Again. Zelensky was never going to get Crimea, Luhansk, or Donbase back, he was only lying to mik the western tit as long as possible.
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French and German leaders told Ukrainian President Zelensky that he needs to consider peace talks
https://www.wsj.com/articles/natos-b...od=djem10point

Ukraine is the poorest and most corrupt country in all of Europe, with zero chance they will ever join NATO or the EU.
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Zelenskyy fired 9 top officials after reports that members of his government went on vacation to Spain and France and took bribes during the war
https://www.businessinsider.com/zele...war-2023-1?amp

The western propaganda machine was wrong again. And taxpayers will be left holding the bag for funding this proxy war while Russia, aided by China, celebrate another victory.

Eastern Europe is a crap hole, and no amount of Americans dollars can change that.
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:21 AM
 
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It counts for history, has absolutely no bearing, ... now.

Really? NO bearing? So if the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 and Russia lost 1/3 of it's territory and power, why didn't NATO dissolved also or downsized but instead they doubled their military alliance? No bearing?


What's the point of that? No bearing? riiight.
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Old 02-25-2023, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Don't feed steak to babies about history. Too much info. Russia has every reason to distrust the West if anybody got at least a B in history and got half of brain to retain information.


A country that for 20 years with the West invaded Iraq and Afghanistan lecturing the world about Russia invading Ukraine. You can't make this up. "Forget history, just focus on today"
The U.S. also invaded the British colonies which became Canada in 1812.
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