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Old 06-01-2023, 06:17 AM
 
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Not sure what you all are in such a rush about. Once the counteroffensive gets underway, there is going to be so much sadness. Why rush it?

The longer the Ukrainians wait, the better prepared they will be. More weapons flowing in. More chances to blow up fuel refineries, Russian barracks, weapons depots... More time to identify and neutralized air defense, ...

Who knows? Russians may have a change of heart along the way.

Could happen.
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Old 06-01-2023, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Canada
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update...

Ukraine's spring counter offensive is now going to be Ukraine's summer counter offensive..but when?..

no video necessary..
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The Winter Offensive became the Spring Offensive. The Spring Offensive has become the Summer Offensive. The Summer Offensive will become the Fall Offensive.

I don't know how anyone can possibly put a positive spin on this for Ukraine. The only thing that is clear is that this war is going to drag out for a long, long, long, long time.

It’s still Spring. Summer officially starts on June 21.
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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It’s still Spring. Summer officially starts on June 21.

for us..in Ukraine it starts today..
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Canada
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for us..in Ukraine it starts today..
Not according to astronomy. Ukraine is on the same planet as the rest of us. June 21 will the longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere and the start of summer.

https://www.almanac.com/content/firs...ummer-solstice
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:33 AM
 
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British intelligence agencies are trying to make up for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The Russian Foreign Ministry said (https://ria.ru/20230530/naemniki-1874957044.html) that British intelligence agencies are looking for mercenaries for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On Adzuna, a private job site, several full-time London-based companies posted a job posting for "military maintenance technician." Applicants from the Middle East and North Africa are offered an indefinite contract and 20 thousand pounds sterling, the fees, as it should be understood, are paid by British taxpayers. In addition to money, after the expiration of the contract, they promise citizenship of the UK or other EU countries.

“To participate in the Ukrainian counter-offensive, military specialists with good health and psychological stability are required. Participants must understand all the risks and sign a waiver of claims, ”the website page says.

Thus, according to military experts (https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20230530...2dmaTliQnBVY1E), groups of foreign mercenaries are arriving in Kharkiv region. These are small units, both mixed and consisting of only foreigners who speak English and Polish, there are also Germans, French and Spaniards.

There will soon be nothing to cover the shortage of manpower in the Ukrainian army. The areas of military cemeteries in Ukraine are growing every day, and the courts sentence the caught evaders from mobilization to prison terms, so the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are abundantly flavored with mercenaries, including citizens of the former Soviet republics. Some of them come as professional military as part of various PMCs, there are ideological Nazis and Russophobes, there are those who simply come to PR in social networks, a lot of rabble who arrived in Ukraine in search of extreme entertainment.

How many "soldiers of fortune" died in the Donbass steppes and at bases under rocket attacks throughout the country, it is now impossible to accurately calculate, but according to open sources in the media, there are already several thousand of them. The Russian Foreign Ministry and common sense advise all kinds of adventurers not to succumb to the recruiting efforts of the British, who are feverishly looking for "consumables" for the Kyiv terrorist regime.

https://t.me/yurasumy/8959
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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June 1 marks the official First Day of Summer in Ukraine.
https://hopenowusa.org/blogs/news/fi...mer-in-ukraine
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:44 AM
 
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British intelligence agencies are trying to make up for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The Russian Foreign Ministry said (https://ria.ru/20230530/naemniki-1874957044.html) that British intelligence agencies are looking for mercenaries for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On Adzuna, a private job site, several full-time London-based companies posted a job posting for "military maintenance technician." Applicants from the Middle East and North Africa are offered an indefinite contract and 20 thousand pounds sterling, the fees, as it should be understood, are paid by British taxpayers. In addition to money, after the expiration of the contract, they promise citizenship of the UK or other EU countries.

“To participate in the Ukrainian counter-offensive, military specialists with good health and psychological stability are required. Participants must understand all the risks and sign a waiver of claims, ”the website page says.

Thus, according to military experts (https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20230530...2dmaTliQnBVY1E), groups of foreign mercenaries are arriving in Kharkiv region. These are small units, both mixed and consisting of only foreigners who speak English and Polish, there are also Germans, French and Spaniards.

There will soon be nothing to cover the shortage of manpower in the Ukrainian army. The areas of military cemeteries in Ukraine are growing every day, and the courts sentence the caught evaders from mobilization to prison terms, so the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are abundantly flavored with mercenaries, including citizens of the former Soviet republics. Some of them come as professional military as part of various PMCs, there are ideological Nazis and Russophobes, there are those who simply come to PR in social networks, a lot of rabble who arrived in Ukraine in search of extreme entertainment.

How many "soldiers of fortune" died in the Donbass steppes and at bases under rocket attacks throughout the country, it is now impossible to accurately calculate, but according to open sources in the media, there are already several thousand of them. The Russian Foreign Ministry and common sense advise all kinds of adventurers not to succumb to the recruiting efforts of the British, who are feverishly looking for "consumables" for the Kyiv terrorist regime.

https://t.me/yurasumy/8959
And Russia has been using mercenaries as well.
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Old 06-01-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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Not sure what you all are in such a rush about. Once the counteroffensive gets underway, there is going to be so much sadness. Why rush it?

The longer the Ukrainians wait, the better prepared they will be. More weapons flowing in. More chances to blow up fuel refineries, Russian barracks, weapons depots... More time to identify and neutralized air defense, ...

Who knows? Russians may have a change of heart along the way.

Could happen.



Correct. Assuming, Russians all go to sleep, drinking and fornicating. Just to wake up one morning to the victorious UAF tank brigades, no, tank armies, rolling down the Red Square.


Before posting something like this, you ever looked into how well Russia is prepared for an offense? And working on it? satellite images are a plenty. You do know that in positional warfare, ATTACKING side has losses 10 to 1 for the defending side? That nothing really changed since the WW1 in positional warfare principles? Ukraine has 10 to 1 manpower to go through another meat grinder? Old F-16s, if any, will bomb everything into powder? Handful of newer tanks from conservation, that will get stuck in Ukrainian mud and without on site repair base will just fly through the dragon teeth and mine fields, while Russian air defense etc is sleeping, drinking and fornicating?
Seriously?
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Old 06-01-2023, 08:40 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we keep hearing that too. That was supposed to happen last year, then it was supposed to happen this year, now it will happen next year. When Western support for Ukraine runs out, and it will happen at some point, Ukraine will already be out of money.
No it wasn't. You just made that up.

Last year it was said that sanctions will destroy Russia. That was true when it was said and it is true today.
Just because you can't see it when you look out your bedroom window does not mean it's not happening.
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Old 06-01-2023, 08:45 AM
 
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Correct. Assuming, Russians all go to sleep, drinking and fornicating. Just to wake up one morning to the victorious UAF tank brigades, no, tank armies, rolling down the Red Square.


Before posting something like this, you ever looked into how well Russia is prepared for an offense? And working on it? satellite images are a plenty. You do know that in positional warfare, ATTACKING side has losses 10 to 1 for the defending side? That nothing really changed since the WW1 in positional warfare principles? Ukraine has 10 to 1 manpower to go through another meat grinder? Old F-16s, if any, will bomb everything into powder? Handful of newer tanks from conservation, that will get stuck in Ukrainian mud and without on site repair base will just fly through the dragon teeth and mine fields, while Russian air defense etc is sleeping, drinking and fornicating?
Seriously?
Go home to your motherland comrade. You are not welcome in America. But I'm sure you are like the Oligarchs in Russia. You want your kids to have a future outside of Russia. I can't stand hypocrites.
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