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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.42%
No 246 51.04%
Unsure 46 9.54%
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Old 04-04-2024, 09:08 AM
 
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the pendulum may swing in Ukraine's favor shortly..western Europe is scrambling to prevent Russia from advancing throughout their own region..they need Ukraine to stop Russia right where they are or back to 1991 borders..they now see how easily a dysfunctional US government is letting Ukraine down on their word and promises..the US is no longer a country to be depended on in times of crisis..
The EU in terms of economic strength is little more than France and Germany. Both of their economies are sliding into recession. So tell us, how they are going to finance additional aid to Ukraine?
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Old 04-04-2024, 09:18 AM
 
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Interesting, but I don't expect Russia to be able to forcefully invade anyone after Ukraine. They made noises toward Kazakhstan with comments about Kazakhstan not really being a country. In response Kazakhstan held a massive celebration of their 500th year as a country. It got a little quieter after that.


To all the lovers of hyperbole: No one is going to "run out of people" in this war. I would imagine it will be fought until Russia withdraws, although fighting might die down a little from time to time. But no one is going to run out of people.
Maybe Moldova and possibly Georgia (the former SSR, not to be confused with the US state obviously), but that's probably about it.

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So US, 4000 miles away from Ukraine, provided more help than the whole EU together but you still think the US is at fault? I mean I'd rather my taxes pay for Patriot missiles in Ukraine, than for "newcomers" on welfare but it's Europe's backyard, not ours.
We were the world's police up until recently.
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Old 04-04-2024, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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Ukraine lowering the draft age for recruits. Needs more recruits real bad after the Russian meat grinder.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...ec2c53373adf03
Ukraine's big problem is they let several million school age teenagers (under 18) leave the country after the 2022 invasion and go to other nearby countries in Europe (Poland, Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania). Many of those teenagers are now 18 or older, and I doubt if many plan to return to the motherland anytime soon. Not sure where Ukraine will find many "younger" recruits for the draft.

I was living in Chemnitz in the eastern part of Germany up until October 2023. There were several pro-Ukraine rallies or events where thousands of Ukraine refugees would attend and wave blue and yellow flags. However, there was never a call to urge the draft age youth (male and female) to return to Ukraine and contribute to the defense of their country. It's not like it is difficult or expensive to return either - there are several FlixBus trips a day that stop in Chemnitz and head east through Poland to Kyev. Bus fare is 75-100 Euro (about $83-110 USD) and takes 22 to 24 hours with as few as 4 stops and no transfers.
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Old 04-04-2024, 10:44 AM
 
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Ukraine's big problem is they let several million school age teenagers (under 18) leave the country after the 2022 invasion and go to other nearby countries in Europe (Poland, Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania). Many of those teenagers are now 18 or older, and I doubt if many plan to return to the motherland anytime soon. Not sure where Ukraine will find many "younger" recruits for the draft.

I was living in Chemnitz in the eastern part of Germany up until October 2023. There were several pro-Ukraine rallies or events where thousands of Ukraine refugees would attend and wave blue and yellow flags. However, there was never a call to urge the draft age youth (male and female) to return to Ukraine and contribute to the defense of their country. It's not like it is difficult or expensive to return either - there are several FlixBus trips a day that stop in Chemnitz and head east through Poland to Kyev. Bus fare is 75-100 Euro (about $83-110 USD) and takes 22 to 24 hours with as few as 4 stops and no transfers.
A good many of them will head home if it looks like the Ukrainians are winning. Everyone wants to be there for victory.
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Old 04-04-2024, 10:50 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Russia's economy doing well?...... Not hardly.
The Financial Times has an interesting report that says, in part, that it is an error to conclude from Russia's GDP numbers that sanctions have failed. They point out the consumer portion of manufacturing has fallen sharply.
READ IT HERE


Is it possible wartime spending can bend the GDP curve upward?...... Sure looks like it. During WW2 America's GDP increased 40% - from 1.094T to 1.474T. LINK And this happened as war rationing was happening and automobile production ceased.

Post WW2, the US grew rapidly. That was because we turned our two greatest enemies - Germany and Japan - into our greatest trading partners. Post war USSR turned their conquests into reluctant subjects, forcing the Soviets into an unenviable role of Overseer. It didn't work out for the USSR then and will not work out for 2024 Russia.
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Old 04-04-2024, 03:35 PM
 
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I don't want more war, but if Israel and Iran go to war, does that change Iran's help for Russia?
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Old 04-04-2024, 04:05 PM
 
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Now it looks like Ukraine has a shortage of military vehicles. A mechanized brigade is being transformed into ordinary infantry with possibly more being thus transformed.

https://militaryland.net/news/153rd-...er-mechanized/

Where are Ukraine's vehicles? Haven't they been adequately supplied by NATO? The Russian shovels could not have beat them all down. Could they?
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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A good many of them will head home if it looks like the Ukrainians are winning. Everyone wants to be there for victory.
If your aunt...
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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This war is a stalemate, and that probably isn't going to change.
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Old 04-04-2024, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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Now it looks like Ukraine has a shortage of military vehicles. A mechanized brigade is being transformed into ordinary infantry with possibly more being thus transformed.

https://militaryland.net/news/153rd-...er-mechanized/

Where are Ukraine's vehicles? Haven't they been adequately supplied by NATO? The Russian shovels could not have beat them all down. Could they?
Military vehicles of any nation including the USA, any NATO country, Russia, Ukraine etc all need almost constant mechanical care and attention. It takes lots of well trained mechanics, a good supply system and good drivers (who know how to detect small problems before they become big problems) to keep all of those vehicles running. At any one time, 20 percent of military vehicles might not be fit for daily service. If there are parts shortages, that can easily exceed 50 percent.

There is a saying I learned while in the Army, the convoy only travels as fast as the slowest truck.
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