Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Mother`s Day to all Moms!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 192 39.18%
No 251 51.22%
Unsure 47 9.59%
Voters: 490. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-03-2024, 09:07 PM
 
5,010 posts, read 2,737,031 times
Reputation: 6954

Advertisements

Ukraine lowering the draft age for recruits. Needs more recruits real bad after the Russian meat grinder.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...ec2c53373adf03
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-03-2024, 10:09 PM
bu2
 
24,116 posts, read 14,949,103 times
Reputation: 12987
Quote:
Originally Posted by SEAandATL View Post
Yeah, probably not those three for the reasons you stated. I just assumed he would want ALL of the old Soviet Union back. I think he'll want Azerbaijan and Armenia. Those have a lot of resources from what I imagine.
In line with this discussion, I looked up the GDP per capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...al)_per_capita

The Baltics, in the EU, are 37, 39 and 42 in the world, nearly double Russia.

Russia is #68 at 13,006.
Right behind at 69 and 70 are Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.

Next at 82 Armenia at 8,283 with Georgia at 83

Then Azerbaijan is 89 at 7,530 with Belarus at 90

Moldova is 97 at 6,411.

Ukraine, damaged by war, is 111 at 5,225

Uzbekistan would be a drain, way down at #142 at 2,509
Kyrgyzstan is #152 at 1,830.
Tajikstan is way down at 166 and 1,180.
The latter 3 have 52 million people, almost all not Slavic. I don't see Putin wanting them.

The 5 other Asian SSRs have only 42 million with substantial Russian minorities in Kazakhstan.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 05:47 AM
 
5,010 posts, read 2,737,031 times
Reputation: 6954
Russia is stepping up its attacks against Ukrainian forces. In tandem with destroying Ukraine's power generation plants and the accumulation of Russian troops in the border areas, this portends the beginning of a strong Russian offensive, likely starting in a few weeks as the weather warms and the ground dries out. Ukraine will find it difficult to maneuver and resupply its forces with its power grid in shambles.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...aults-isw.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
5,180 posts, read 3,793,422 times
Reputation: 3723
Only took 25 months but it seems as if the cope dope and spin from guys like Denys is slowly fading. Even the brain dead are starting to get it. Game over.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:12 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,640 posts, read 17,379,102 times
Reputation: 37408
Quote:
Originally Posted by bu2 View Post
In line with this discussion, I looked up the GDP per capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...al)_per_capita

The Baltics, in the EU, are 37, 39 and 42 in the world, nearly double Russia.

Russia is #68 at 13,006.
Right behind at 69 and 70 are Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.

Next at 82 Armenia at 8,283 with Georgia at 83

Then Azerbaijan is 89 at 7,530 with Belarus at 90

Moldova is 97 at 6,411.

Ukraine, damaged by war, is 111 at 5,225

Uzbekistan would be a drain, way down at #142 at 2,509
Kyrgyzstan is #152 at 1,830.
Tajikstan is way down at 166 and 1,180.
The latter 3 have 52 million people, almost all not Slavic. I don't see Putin wanting them.

The 5 other Asian SSRs have only 42 million with substantial Russian minorities in Kazakhstan.
Interesting, but I don't expect Russia to be able to forcefully invade anyone after Ukraine. They made noises toward Kazakhstan with comments about Kazakhstan not really being a country. In response Kazakhstan held a massive celebration of their 500th year as a country. It got a little quieter after that.


To all the lovers of hyperbole: No one is going to "run out of people" in this war. I would imagine it will be fought until Russia withdraws, although fighting might die down a little from time to time. But no one is going to run out of people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
4,906 posts, read 2,703,906 times
Reputation: 7741
the pendulum may swing in Ukraine's favor shortly..western Europe is scrambling to prevent Russia from advancing throughout their own region..they need Ukraine to stop Russia right where they are or back to 1991 borders..they now see how easily a dysfunctional US government is letting Ukraine down on their word and promises..the US is no longer a country to be depended on in times of crisis..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 08:41 AM
 
379 posts, read 171,884 times
Reputation: 374
Quote:
Originally Posted by double6's View Post
the pendulum may swing in Ukraine's favor shortly..western Europe is scrambling to prevent Russia from advancing throughout their own region..they need Ukraine to stop Russia right where they are or back to 1991 borders..they now see how easily a dysfunctional US government is letting Ukraine down on their word and promises..the US is no longer a country to be depended on in times of crisis..
So US, 4000 miles away from Ukraine, provided more help than the whole EU together but you still think the US is at fault? I mean I'd rather my taxes pay for Patriot missiles in Ukraine, than for "newcomers" on welfare but it's Europe's backyard, not ours.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 09:08 AM
 
5,203 posts, read 3,130,705 times
Reputation: 11107
Quote:
Originally Posted by double6's View Post
the pendulum may swing in Ukraine's favor shortly..western Europe is scrambling to prevent Russia from advancing throughout their own region..they need Ukraine to stop Russia right where they are or back to 1991 borders..they now see how easily a dysfunctional US government is letting Ukraine down on their word and promises..the US is no longer a country to be depended on in times of crisis..
The EU in terms of economic strength is little more than France and Germany. Both of their economies are sliding into recession. So tell us, how they are going to finance additional aid to Ukraine?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 09:18 AM
 
6,585 posts, read 12,098,747 times
Reputation: 5274
Quote:
Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
Interesting, but I don't expect Russia to be able to forcefully invade anyone after Ukraine. They made noises toward Kazakhstan with comments about Kazakhstan not really being a country. In response Kazakhstan held a massive celebration of their 500th year as a country. It got a little quieter after that.


To all the lovers of hyperbole: No one is going to "run out of people" in this war. I would imagine it will be fought until Russia withdraws, although fighting might die down a little from time to time. But no one is going to run out of people.
Maybe Moldova and possibly Georgia (the former SSR, not to be confused with the US state obviously), but that's probably about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by notghinsaw View Post
So US, 4000 miles away from Ukraine, provided more help than the whole EU together but you still think the US is at fault? I mean I'd rather my taxes pay for Patriot missiles in Ukraine, than for "newcomers" on welfare but it's Europe's backyard, not ours.
We were the world's police up until recently.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-04-2024, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
5,775 posts, read 11,417,238 times
Reputation: 13610
Quote:
Originally Posted by BusinessManIT View Post
Ukraine lowering the draft age for recruits. Needs more recruits real bad after the Russian meat grinder.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...ec2c53373adf03
Ukraine's big problem is they let several million school age teenagers (under 18) leave the country after the 2022 invasion and go to other nearby countries in Europe (Poland, Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania). Many of those teenagers are now 18 or older, and I doubt if many plan to return to the motherland anytime soon. Not sure where Ukraine will find many "younger" recruits for the draft.

I was living in Chemnitz in the eastern part of Germany up until October 2023. There were several pro-Ukraine rallies or events where thousands of Ukraine refugees would attend and wave blue and yellow flags. However, there was never a call to urge the draft age youth (male and female) to return to Ukraine and contribute to the defense of their country. It's not like it is difficult or expensive to return either - there are several FlixBus trips a day that stop in Chemnitz and head east through Poland to Kyev. Bus fare is 75-100 Euro (about $83-110 USD) and takes 22 to 24 hours with as few as 4 stops and no transfers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top