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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.34%
No 247 51.14%
Unsure 46 9.52%
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Old 05-31-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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The BBC has been saying for the last week, that Ukraine's losing, contrary to Stateside reporting. That sounds fairly accurate to me, at this point. Stay tuned for further developments.
And why do you think that is?

It's because even the MSM needs to adapt when the evidence is overwhelming. The narrative of repeated Ukrainian victories, embarrassing performances by Russian troops, heroic Ukrainian fighters vs. amateurish Russian troops....

.... all lies.

But on at least that, you have noticed the facts. Russia is winning and it will win.
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Old 05-31-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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To Replenish Its Army In Ukraine, Russia Plans To Strip Its Training Units. It Can Only Do This Once.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...-do-this-once/

https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status...17529678995456

According to recent mobilization order, which some analysts claim to have seen, the Kremin plans to raid its training base. It’s a risky move.

Every brigade and regiment in the Russian army forms at least two BTGs for combat, both with professional contract soldiers. A so-called “third battalion” oversees a brigade or regiment’s conscripts—who, by law, aren’t supposed to deploy to a combat zone—and handles training and constabulary tasks.

The mobilization order requires the higher units to strip their third battalions of all legally deployable manpower in order to form an extra BTG. The open-source analysts at Conflict Intelligence Team believe the army can squeeze another 30 or 40 BTGs from the existing third battalions.

Trainers are an army’s regenerative tissue—the means by which it sustains itself after wartime damage. When you deploy the trainers, you lose the ability to regenerate. What that means is: Russia can replenish its army in Ukraine, restoring it roughly to the numerical strength—if not the technological sophistication—it possessed on day one of the wider war.

But it can only replenish the army once. If Ukraine destroys those extra Russian BTGs, there might not be any more battalions to take their place.

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Old 05-31-2022, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Russia publicly declared its objective was to liberate the southeastern provinces where Ukraine's literal neo-Nazis had killed 14000, displaced 1.5 million, and were setting the stage for even worse.


Only the Pentagon and its shills have claimed Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine and its capitol.
So they invaded Kyiv and Kharkiv to throw everybody off????

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUBRKZRW...jpg&name=small
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Old 05-31-2022, 02:45 PM
 
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According to UK MoD, "Mounting casualties among Russian junior officers will likely further degrade Russian capabilities."

Seems mid and junior ranking Russian officers are held to an “uncompromising level of responsibility” for their units, and "deploy forward" to ensure things go well.

"The continued losses of these junior officers will complicate command and control efforts, particularly in Battalion Tactical Groups (BTGs) cobbled together from the survivors of multiple other units. "

https://understandingwar.org
On average 2 senior Russian officers a day…

https://joshgold.me/officers.html

2 today already made the list
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Old 05-31-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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Ukrainian advances might have slowed down. I am having a hard time finding videos of Russian rapists and murderers shot dead. This is one is a gem. Clear videos of Russian military vehicles destroyed by Ukrainian defenders. The host is knowledgeable about military hardware. Doesn't it give you a warm feeling to see these savages blown to pieces?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARaR2-7fAoM
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:18 PM
 
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Default looted possessions on Russian tank

Refugee from Popasna spots looted possessions on Russian tank | BBC

These people have been stealing washing machines, toilets, clothes and blankets ... anything that is not nailed down, and much that is.

They steal the local's cars, then paint a big [Z] or [O] on it and drive around town breaking into homes.

They are so undisciplined they are like a riotous mob with very deadly weapons sent by their government with permission to pillage.

Some call them "Orcs", the analogy seems appropriate.
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:22 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61643533

Kind of funny. Ukrainian refugee recognizes her boiler than the Russians looted and carry on top of their tank.

Russian soldiers looting was apparently pretty prevalent north of Kiev.

I guess now we know what the Russians mean by "liberating" the Donbass. "Liberating" all personal property that can be moved.

There is a shipment of steel that has been stolen from Mariupol and is being moved to Russia. Russia is bragging about the first shipment from Mariupol--stolen steel.

Putin's propaganda has demonized the Ukrainians, so the Russian soldiers are killing, looting, pillaging and raping their way around the country. And a number of the victims are Russian ethnically. Most are Russian speaking. They are being "liberated" of life, liberty and property. Welcome to the new Mother Russia.
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:28 PM
 
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In a thoughtful Q & A, General Ben Hodges is asked some key questions about where we are in this war and what the possible outcome may be.
Russia is stuck in a quagmire, and each week Russia rolls back its goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNS1AWxdYdQ
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:19 PM
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In a thoughtful Q & A, General Ben Hodges is asked some key questions about where we are in this war and what the possible outcome may be.
Russia is stuck in a quagmire, and each week Russia rolls back its goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNS1AWxdYdQ
He seems pretty optimistic Ukraine will push Russia back to the 2-23 lines. To me its not clear they will be able to do that. Maybe. But it will be difficult to drive them out of all that territory except by attrition over a several years when Russia will get exhausted, much as they were in Afghanistan.

The best result for Ukraine would be a rapid collapse of Russian lines that threatens Crimea. Then Russia might quickly agree to a deal.
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:26 PM
 
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Todays update...quite a bit

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-31

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Moscow’s concentration on seizing Severodonetsk and Donbas generally continues to create vulnerabilities for Russia in Ukraine’s vital Kherson Oblast, where Ukrainian counter-offensives continue.

The Ukrainian leadership has apparently wisely avoided matching Putin’s mistaken prioritization.

Sound Ukrainian prioritization of counter-offensive and defensive operations pushed the Russians almost out of artillery range of Kharkiv City and have stopped the Russian advances from Izyum—both of which are more important accomplishments than the defense of Severodonetsk.

That is why Ukraine still has a good chance to stop and then reverse the gains Russia is currently making.

Russian forces are likely attempting to exploit Belarusian equipment reserves to compensate for heavy material losses in Ukraine.

Some pro-Russian milbloggers began to capture the frustrating realities of limited warfare, which may further intensify societal tensions in Russia

Pro-Russian political figure and self-proclaimed “People’s Governor of Donetsk Oblast” Pavel Gubarev said that the limited mobilization of Russians for war has divided Russian society into two groups: a small proportion that is involved in the war and the “peacetime Russians” who distance themselves from the war effort and are inconvenienced by foreign sanctions.[4] Gubarev blamed the “peacetime Russians” for failing to start collecting donations for Russian equipment, while criticizing the Kremlin for increasing propaganda about Russian successes during the “special military operation” in Ukraine. Gubarev also blamed the “peacetime Russians” for slowing down rotation rates due to fear of conscription. Guberev noted that mass mobilization could resolve the divide in society but opined that Russian commanders will not order such a mobilization to avoid mass casualties of unprepared conscripts as occurred, he notes, in the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR)

Russian citizens continued to conduct a series of attacks on Russian military recruitment centers in late May, likely in protest of covert mobilization
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Russian forces are increasingly focused on advancing on Slovyansk from the southeast of Izyum and west of Lyman.

Russian forces are making gains within and around Severodonetsk.

Russian forces are likely hoping to advance on Lysychansk from Toshkivka in order to avoid having to fight across the Severskyi Donets River from Severodonetsk.

The Russian grouping in Kherson Oblast is likely feeling the pressure of the limited Ukrainian counteroffensive in northwestern Kherson Oblast, especially as much of the Russian operational focus is currently on the capture of Severodonetsk.
Activity in Russian-occupied areas

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Russian forces continued to face significant challenges in their attempts to consolidate occupation authority on May 31. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that the Russian-appointed mayor of Melitopol Halyna Danylenko resigned due to partisan activity in the city.[34] The Ukrainian Resistance Center added that Ukrainian entrepreneurs stopped the operation of the Kupyansk Dairy Cannery in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast and are refusing to use Russian banks and currency
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