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Yes 196 39.44%
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW Update 11/27

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...nt-november-27

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Nov 27, 2022 - Press ISW

The overall pace of operations along the frontline has slowed in recent days due to deteriorating weather conditions but is likely to increase in the next few weeks as temperatures drop and the ground freezes throughout the theater. Ukrainian and Russian reporting from critical frontline areas throughout eastern and southern Ukraine, including Svatove, Bakhmut, and Vuhledar, indicates that operations on both sides are currently bogged down by heavy rain and the resulting heavy mud. Temperatures are forecast to drop throughout Ukraine over the next week, which will likely freeze the ground and expedite the pace of fighting as mobility increases for both sides. The temperature in parts of Ukraine’s northeast, such as along the Svatove-Kreminna line, will dip to near-or-below-freezing daily highs between November 28 and December 4. The ground will likely need several days of consistent freezing temperatures to solidify, which means that ground conditions are likely to be set to allow the pace of operations to increase throughout Ukraine over the course of the weekend of December 3-4 and into the following week. It is unclear if either side is actively planning or preparing to resume major offensive or counter-offensive operations at that time, but the meteorological factors that have been hindering such operations will begin to recede.
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Old 11-27-2022, 09:38 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The Dnipro River is a real problem. But Russia knew it would be. It's a mile or more wide, like the Mississippi, so crossing it with heavy equipment is going to be tricky.
Ukraine army is managing to go around and land, but it's going to be heavy slogging and nearly everything is going to have to come across the water, one way or the other.


Meanwhile in Crimea the Kerch Bridge is in worse shape than first reported. Details here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04t-d_l8mY
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Old 11-27-2022, 09:59 PM
 
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This one is for Listener2307. Putin will fall in 47 days. It was posted 5 days ago, so only 42 days to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzsgR98jLg

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Old 11-27-2022, 10:32 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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This is one is for Listener2307. Putin will fall in 47 days. It was posted 5 days ago, so only 42 days to go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzsgR98jLg
I actually have seen that. Business Basics has some pretty good information, but I ignore all the forecasts of when this or that will happen. I do believe it will happen - I just can't believe the time forecasts from all the various sources including Peter Zeihan, Business Basics, and probably even George Friedman.



So to make it clear: I believe both Russia and China will fall apart, mostly due to demographic collapse, but Ukraine hastened Russia's demise while China may have done itself in with draconian Covid restrictions. Real trouble is brewing in China as we speak, but how many weeks?!...... I dunno.
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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This one is for Listener2307. Putin will fall in 47 days. It was posted 5 days ago, so only 42 days to go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzsgR98jLg

To sum up that video, the Russian economy was supposed to collapse, but it didn't, but it will, some day... maybe.

It reminds me of trickle-down economics. No matter how long you wait, not one single drop ever trickles down, but they never stop promising it will.

The video did have some interesting info-graphics though. Poor Russians with their low unemployment, declining inflation and strong ruble.


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Old 11-28-2022, 04:28 AM
 
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Is the Russian ruble trading on the open market yet?
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Old 11-28-2022, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Is the Russian ruble trading on the open market yet?
Who cares? It's stronger now then when it was traded on the open market.

The US dollar has only been free floating since 1971. Was it a terrible currency before that?
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Old 11-28-2022, 06:33 AM
 
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Who cares? It's stronger now then when it was traded on the open market.

The US dollar has only been free floating since 1971. Was it a terrible currency before that?
Last I read, the Russian ruble was not being traded on the open market.

So how are we to know that it is "strong" or even "stronger" as claimed?

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Old 11-28-2022, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Last I read, the Russian ruble was not being traded on the open market.

So how are we to know that it is "strong" or even "stronger" as claimed?
That is the current exchange rate. If you go to your bank or a currency exchange and ask for Russian rubles, that's what they are going to charge you.
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Old 11-28-2022, 07:22 AM
 
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FYI, the current conflict originates a little further back.

It's all basically a big ol' jumbled up mess amongst ex-Soviet states. Lots of lefty libs supporting a war that arms an Ex-Soviet state, supports sending billions of dollars and arms to defend the borders of a very corrupt Ex-Soviet state, that has been at war with it's self for 8 years. And by all of this support, they are in favor of the total annihilation and obliteration of Ukraine and it's people, the starvation of millions around the world and the potential loss of substantial life in northern latitudes of Europe from winter cold conditions. Oh yeah, and the risk of igniting WW3 in the age of nuclear weapons.

It's astonishing at the evolution of the Left.
That's right.
When Russia first attacked...they sent all the women, children, and elderly away, and made every able-bodied man 16 to 60 stay and fight.
They said they will "fight to the last man"...and I'm sure Russia will accommodate them on that.
The Ukraine is being reduced to rubble...all the airports will be destroyed, all the pipelines, all the refineries, all the ports, all the roads, all the schools & hospitals, most of the buildings, everything blasted to dust.
Any day...they will probably hit the nuclear power plants.
So...what is there to hold & keep? A uninhabitable blasted out wasteland?
The U.S. and other Countries out tens of Billions of dollars and a big chunk of their armaments.
For what? Putin will nuke them before he loses.
They attacked the Ukraine and took Crimea the last time Biden was in office.
While Trump was in office...he laid low...he was scared of Trump.
Biden got back in office...he saw how bad he messed up the Afghanistan withdrawal (as bad as it could be messed up)...and attacked the Ukraine again.
This whole thing is happening because Joe Biden is the U.S. President instead of Trump or some other strong leader.
The Ukraine is doomed because of this...and there may be a nuclear war. The whole world is destabilized.
All because the U.S. has a President that is so pathetic and weak he didn't have the mojo to head this off and keep it from starting.
This is actually the worse thing about Joe Biden...but few note this fact.

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