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Old 05-25-2022, 05:54 AM
 
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Why not re-ban assault rifles? It worked before.
You mean rifles right ? It's probably going to be a tough one, because now you will be banning the number one most popular hunting rifle. One that has been available to the public since the early '70's. And now they are the problem ? Yeah, I don't think so.
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:56 AM
 
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I haven't read anything about his parents. Where were they? Was he living with them or his grandmother? Did he have any siblings? I also heard that he was born in North Dakota.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:06 AM
 
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I haven't read anything about his parents. Where were they? Was he living with them or his grandmother? Did he have any siblings? I also heard that he was born in North Dakota.
No Dad, read his Mom had issues with drugs. Maybe the Grandmother was raising him.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Agree, but It’s More than just social media — the pervasive and extreme acts of violence these kids are exposed to 24/7 via movies, TV, video games is changing our culture.
When I grew up (50-early60s) there were plenty of guns around yet rare acts of violence. — the only violence we kids were exposed to on TV or movies were western mild shoot ups, boys beating each other up and rarely a knife was brought to a school and pulled in a fight and everyone was totally shocked.

I know there were some gangs and some mafia violence, but we weren’t exposed to this 24/7 nor were there the constant TV/Movie entertainment VISUALS of beheadings, gang rapes, mass shootouts, perverse torture, etc
Gun sales have skyrocketed over the last 20 years especially semi-automatic hand guns AR15s and ghost guns, not even close to the 1960,s. Other countries have the same Movies and games that we have. We have over 3 times the guns per capita of the next closest nation, no civilized nation can function with 400 million guns in circulation.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:12 AM
 
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Why not re-ban assault rifles? It worked before.
The rifle, you call an ASSAULT, is a basic rifle. You pull the trigger and 1 bullet comes out.

And no it has not worked before. The guy who killed 33 people at Virginia Tech used a handgun(s).
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:14 AM
 
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Gun sales have skyrocketed over the last 20 years especially semi-automatic hand guns AR15s and ghost guns, not even close to the 1960,s. Other countries have the same Movies and games that we have. We have over 3 times the guns per capita of the next closest nation, no civilized nation can function with 400 million guns in circulation.
We are functioning and people from all over the world are lined up to get in here......more so than any other nation on Earth....people want to come here.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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The perpetrator is a gay supremacist who hates children and the elderly because he also killed the grandmother. How did that scum get in here?
The complacent system of the leftist establishment that believes it will solve everything, has to be rooted out and eliminated from the abject mentality of the majority of liberal individuals and their groups who, with the word "community" which is nothing more than Communism, believe that they can do anything and have the right to impose the absurd law of divisionism of protected classes so that all these catastrophes arise in society and the "protectionist" and Deep State makes its entrance.
As long as an entire people is induced to blame men and women for a non-existent "white supremacy" to hide many other supremacies such as black supremacy and that of homosexuals among many others, so that they arm themselves with "empowerment" over the First law that is the Constitution for all, in which what should exist is the pride of being an American and not that of a specific and divisive class, then in America we will continue to witness massacres, designed, remotely controlled and even sponsored by secret programs of the Deep Estate that the forces of the left deny. Guns and Second Amendment is not the problem.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:22 AM
 
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Unfortunately they might not have helped the individual, but they certainly helped society by not letting the mentally unstable live among us.
I agree. I think too many people are stuck on images from movies like, "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" when it comes to mental institutions. Sure abuses existed, but it wouldn't be like that in modern day society if they were brought back.

Look at all of the volunteers that assist the mentally ill living on the street. Wouldn't it be more humane to have them in a hospital where they are safe? These same volunteers could visit them and even take them out for day outings when appropriate so they wouldn't be isolated.

I say this with the knowledge of the improvements made to animal shelters over the years. It wasn't long ago that those places were filled with horrors too. The "dog pound" represented a sure death sentence. Society demanded better and now even in municipal shelters these animals are treated humanely, volunteers socialize them and adoptions have gone up so much that some places have waiting lists.

These are animals and we have done better for them. Civilized societies don't let the mentally ill run amok. Confining them DOES help them individually and of course protects society as a whole. We need to face the fact that some people can't live safely among us. They need to be protected from their own demons. As an example, the Buffalo shooter exhibited clear signs of violent mental illness (he made a school shooting threat last year). If he was institutionalized, those 10 people would still be alive.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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No one wants to admit the truth, this is an American Problem. Race does not matter, ethnic background does not matter, what matters is American culture produces more violent crimes and deaths than any other 1st world country by far.

One more sign that American's problems run much deeper than we all want to admit. And the stuff we argue about daily like Trans rights, Elon Musk, Twitter, and Right/Left wing are nothing but distractions to keep us from realizing we are living in a country that is starting to unravel.

Either this country will learn to put some differences aside to put itself back together, or we will continue down the road of ending up like the Dead and gone Empires before us.
Wow, what an incredible post. And you are completely spot on.

Firearms have been around for decades. Pretty much the same firearms, with, in some cases much easier access to them. There was a time there was no background checks, and one could actually get a firearm out of the Sears catalog delivered to their home.
So there is one constant. We've always had firearms available.

Yes, our inner cities where always violent and crime ridden. This is a perfect example , showcasing what happens due to moral decay. Whether it was firearms, knives, bats, fists etc...it's always been like this.
That is another constant.

What has been ramping up though, is the rampage shooting. There has always been cases of this type of violence going back 100 years. Not at this frequency though. What has changed in society to bring this
on ?
That is the big question.
This is a variable. Why are we seeing young adults (male) killing as many others as they can ?

We are also seeing a rise in day to day violence. Two people pulling firearms to settle arguments, like road rage, or other normally trivial disagreements. Why ? What in society is causing people to not be able to deal with adversity ?
This is another variable. Why are people becoming so angry, to the point of killing another ?

Keep in mind, there are at least 80 million firearms owners out there that have not broken a single law, or taken a single human life except for the cases of self defense. This proves this isn't a firearm problem.
This is another constant.

Our country has some deep societal issues, that each administration just keeps kicking the can to the next administration. Nothing will change unless these issues are addressed. Sure, we can chastise the law abiding by banning, restricting, etc.....but that will not fix the issues we have in this country. And we can't be compared to any other country. No other country has our size, racial issues, economic make up, diversity, and at the moment the huge amount of polarization.

Personally. I think all the diversity, inclusive, equity, and anti bullying rhetoric has backfired. It seems to be doing the opposite. Letting people "be themselves" doesn't work when they have mental issues that need to be addressed. Now this is going to sound harsh, really harsh, but before all this anti bullying thing started, people such as this shooter, the Oxford shooter and many others would have been bullied non stop until they either changed, or killed themselves. Now, they can't be touched, so they are just left alone festering , getting more angry every day , never getting help positive or negative until they snap.

Something changed in the way families interact, how schools teach, and how kids are being raised since the late 90's, early 2000's. This is the result.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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Salvador Ramos was apparently transgender. That's... an interesting turn of events. I've seen the photos of him in drag.....
You were tricked. That's false information.

The same false info said he was a leftist illegal as well as trans. The person that owns the account where the trans photos exist has replied and said it's not the shooter and the account owner is not even in Texas.

More about the false info in below link:

https://www.newsweek.com/salvador-ra...idence-1709867
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