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Old 06-06-2022, 09:39 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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The FBI never stated that it was an APnews release from unnamed sources.
Just like that, those on the left no longer completely believe in unnamed sources.

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Later Garland said no one had been ruled out of being involved.
Does that include investigating Pelosi?
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I never said Trump himself would be convicted of these crimes I doubt Trump ever directly spoke to the leaders of these organizations. It's more likely that they did speak to someone like Roger Stone who already stated he had used them for security purposes.

The question is will someone like Stone or the inner circle rat on one of the Trump family members. It's possible Don JR might have been involved in the planning. Proud Boys are facing 20 years in federal prison, or rat out someone above them. Is Stone willing to die in prison to save Trump, or someone in his family.

Here is the amended indictment against them. News release > New Charges in Superseding Indictment

Download Tarrio et al - Superseding Indictment
I'm talking 6+ years worth.

If these knucklehead losers conspired to enter the Capitol with ill will, if they engaged with and injured officers and destroyed parts of the building - lock them up.

Just quit thinking anything has happened yet that will GET TRUMP!!
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Sedition? Good grief. The rioted, broke a glass door, took selfies, and then.... then they went home. All done and over with by 6:00 PM.
You must have slept through the middle of it. I guess you missed the part where they beat up the Capitol police.
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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He was an FBI informant.
Evidently not, being that they charged him with a crime.
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Old 06-06-2022, 10:29 PM
 
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Arrest timed/announced the same week of the theatrical release of the Jan 6 hearings. And they made sure the word sedition was in the charges.
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:12 PM
 
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Fun fact: Enrique wasn't even in DC on Jan. 6th.
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Fun fact, he was organizing it. You don't have to be there for a conspiracy charge.
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He was an FBI informant.
He's been an FBI asset for at least a decade now. They all know who he is.

He was arrested Jan 4th and told to stay out of DC. The new leaders were arrested and put in solitary confinement for non-violent charges, and are named as part of this trial.
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Old 06-06-2022, 11:15 PM
 
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If anyone wants the curious background to all of this, I have a few posts in this thread that links to some of the background.

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Old 06-07-2022, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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How so? The FBI had said there was "no grand scheme with Stone" in the Capitol attack. Is the committee creating it or something?
The Federal Grand Jury seems to disagree as they continue to issue conspiracy charges of sedition.

The Georgia state grand jury could Charge Trump with state crimes. I suspect this is why Trump wanted David Perdue to win so he could get a Pardon from him. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022...-investigation
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Old 06-07-2022, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I doubt Trump was directly involved he might have known about it, but I could see this leading to someone like Roger Stone. The campaign did provide money to these groups. It was though Roger Stone he claimed it was was for security, but likely Roger was coordinating with them to attack the capital building. Roger Stone has a history of this type of stuff with Brooks Brothers riot in Florida.
Are you kidding ? He was well aware of it and the texts emails and calls prove it. Leaders just nod their heads, and let the dirty work be done by others.
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Old 06-07-2022, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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FBI stated:
There was no evidence that Trump or those around him were involved.
That the text messages from the rioters, during that day, showed that Trump wasn't involved.
That those who'd planned on entering the Capitol building had no plans after entering the building.
That only a very small few had plans to do anything.

Why wasn't Epps charged the same as Rhodes, since their actions were similar? Why, exactly, did he and his pals have a get out of jail free card?
And the group camped out at the hotel ?
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