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View Poll Results: Will you be watching the House January 6 Committee hearing?
YES-WATCHING 70 24.56%
NO-NOT WATCHING 215 75.44%
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Old 06-29-2022, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Did it ever occur to you that this is not all about preventing Trump to run again, but preventing this sort of incident to happen again? You can't have people storming the Capitol or any other place loaded with spears, AR-15's and other guns, knives etc., This is the United States of America not some middle eastern country or an uncivilized country. What the heck? IF someone doesn't get a hold of this now, it's going to continue to happen. This was NOT a peaceful protest, there's a big difference.

When the Congress flips in January, we will be able to get to the bottom of things (maybe).

It's like a divorce case with the husband accused of ****ing the baby sitter, but he doesn't get to tell his side of things, so it looks pretty bad.

Details like the wife was cheating with a new boyfriend at the time or that the baby sitter was 26 years-old should probably be mentioned, but we don't get to hear any of that.

People are not watching because it's Russia-gate 5.0.

 
Old 06-29-2022, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Were you ever in the Secret Service as a bodyguard? You are making a lot of assumptions about who they can talk to. Why are you arguing so hard? The agents will be called to testify or not. We will have to be patient.
Pretty much common knowledge.

P.S. that's why they call it the "secret" service and not the "we like to blab about what we do" service.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The secret service is cooperating and have been deposed but they have not provided the details.

This woman went under oath Peter Engels source and the secret service agents should be interviewed at the next hearing under oath
Her attorney, Jody Hunt, also called for the agents to testify. I don't think they are worried much about being refuted.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes.

Because if you are paying close attention she didn't see it. She heard another anonymous source say it happened.

So to get her on perjury they'd have to prove that a source to be kept anonymous didn't tell her it happened, NOT whether it happened or not.

This is the game they play to manipulate you.

Wake up.

Trump is bad, but your side constantly lies, yes lies, to make him worse than reality. That is a fact. Break free from the propaganda.

It is now being reported, by conservative media of course, that there are people inside the secret service willing to testify that this never happened.

This is the BS your side does.

This is why intelligent and observant people don't trust this committee or the media. They run with wild BS based on an anonymous source and the media shrieks it, it is discredited but the media largely ignores that it was debunked.

Consider this, there are still fools that think Trump ordered peaceful protesters removed from the church for a photo op. That is the media's game.

Consider this, a long list of former Obama Administration officials all publicly said to national media that thew knew of or saw first hand Trump Russia collusion info. Behind closed doors under oath, they all said they knew of zero. What was the result? Democrats nationwide wet their pants in joy over a withhunt and now that it has been exposed as BS most of you still believe it. Stop being so easily manipulated.
Although her testimony on Trumps actions in the vehicle was extremely shocking she also made many statements regarding Cipollone and Meadows and verified calls from Jordan. Also of interest was Meadows and Cipollone's concern with Trump's statement that he was going down to the mall to lead the protest.

Like I said it should be easy to contradict her testimony but we can't get the "other side" to come on board but according to her Cipollone and Meadows were absolutely terrified and rightfully so.

It would border on the absurd for a 25 year old woman to destroy her career by lying.

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Cipollone told Meadows during a discussion of chants of "hang Mike Pence" during the Capitol attack that “We need to do something.” According to Hutchinson, her boss told Cipollone: “ 'He thinks Mike deserves that. He doesn't think they're doing anything wrong.' To which Pat said something to the effect of, 'This is f---ing crazy.' "
The White House counsel came "barrelling toward" the chief of staff's office after the rioters had entered the Capitol. “He doesn’t want to do anything, Pat,” Hutchinson recalled Meadows saying. Hutchinson said Cipollone responded, “Mark, something needs to be done. People are going to die and the blood is going to be on your f---ing hands. This is out of control. I’m going down there (to the president's office).”
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ne/7762146001/
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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She's under oath, do you really think this woman is going to come before the committee and lie on something that could be easily contradicted by the secret service. Besides what would exactly be her motivation to lie about the events in the white house. You have already heard from Herschman and other attorneys, this sure seems to follow along.
Not only under oath, but obviously recounting what she told them in the three closed door sessions she had with them. The questions she was asked live are the ones weeded out from hours of testimony she gave.

I would be all but certain that the panel had vetted every word she said before she made it to the witness chair.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Teleprompter View Post
Yes.

Because if you are paying close attention she didn't see it. She heard another anonymous source say it happened.

So to get her on perjury they'd have to prove that a source to be kept anonymous didn't tell her it happened, NOT whether it happened or not.

This is the game they play to manipulate you.

Wake up.

Trump is bad, but your side constantly lies, yes lies, to make him worse than reality. That is a fact. Break free from the propaganda.

It is now being reported, by conservative media of course, that there are people inside the secret service willing to testify that this never happened.

This is the BS your side does.

This is why intelligent and observant people don't trust this committee or the media. They run with wild BS based on an anonymous source and the media shrieks it, it is discredited but the media largely ignores that it was debunked to move on to the next manipulation.

Consider this, there are still fools that think Trump ordered peaceful protesters removed from the church for a photo op. That is the media's game.

Consider this, a long list of former Obama Administration officials all publicly said to national media that thew knew of or saw first hand Trump Russia collusion info. Behind closed doors under oath, they all said they knew of zero. What was the result? Democrats nationwide wet their pants in joy over a withhunt and now that it has been exposed as BS most of you still believe it. Stop being so easily manipulated.
We agree on something. Cool.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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So the "surprise bombshell witness" has already been shown to have purjured herself at least twice during her testimony.... following in the footsteps of Christine Blasey Ford, Amber Heard, and Jussie Smollett.

Committing perjury to push political narratives is a popular left wing trend.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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The most amazing thing about young conservative Cassidy Hutchison's testimony was the clear evidence that she has more patriotism, integrity and character in her little finger than any ten insurrection deniers and Big Lie believers posting here--or President Trump, for that matter.

“As an American, I was disgusted. It was unpatriotic. It was un-American. We were watching the Capitol building get defaced over a lie.”
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Her attorney, Jody Hunt, also called for the agents to testify. I don't think they are worried much about being refuted.
The SS will be responding to her testimony. It's rather strange the way this hearing is going as more information is coming out beyond their statements in the deposition. The SS was already deposed but this wasn't part of their testimony?

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The U.S. Secret Service will have more to say to the Jan. 6 House select committee after former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony Tuesday regarding former President Trump's actions related to Jan. 6, 2021. In a hearing announced at the last minute, she told the committee of Trump's desire to go to the Capitol with his supporters while Congress was in a joint session counting the electoral ballots.

"The United States Secret Service has been cooperating with the Select Committee since its inception in spring 2021, and will continue to do so, including by responding on the record to the Committee regarding the new allegations surfaced in today's testimony," U.S. Secret Service spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement to CBS News.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-...son-testimony/
 
Old 06-29-2022, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The most amazing thing about young conservative Cassidy Hutchison's testimony was the clear evidence that she has more patriotism, integrity and character in her little finger than any ten insurrection deniers and Big Lie believers posting here--or President Trump, for that matter.

“As an American, I was disgusted. It was unpatriotic. It was un-American. We were watching the Capitol building get defaced over a lie.”
Yes she has shown great courage, I think that initially she didn't want to appear live before the committee but changed her mind and that's why the last minute hearing was added.
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